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Old 03-16-2020, 02:46 PM
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Disaster. ESPN has already given the Texans an F grade on this deal:

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My first instinct when I saw the terms of this trade was to worry whether Hopkins had lost a limb.
What the hell are they thinking? Somebody please test O'Brien for the coronavirus because he's obviously sick.
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Old 03-16-2020, 09:59 PM
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Man, this team is hard to like sometimes.

I'm not seeing too many positives, here... I like David Johnson but I'm not crazy about David Johnson. I think the #2 pick from the Cards is #40 overall which is about as close as the Texans will get to the 1st round this year.

Other than that, totally not worth it. Lopsided value in the Cardinals favor. The Texans lose a fan favorite and continue to alienate their fans...

So far, they lose Hyde, now Hopkins.

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Old 03-17-2020, 09:07 AM
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The Vikings got far more for Diggs then we got for Hopkins. It's embarrassing.

It's honestly reached the point where it just makes me care less. I wouldn't say I'm stopping being a fan, but I just can't bring myself to care.
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Old 03-17-2020, 10:24 AM
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The Vikings got far more for Diggs then we got for Hopkins. It's embarrassing.
Indeed. The CBS analysis of the Diggs deal basically says, don't compare it to the Hopkins deal because the Vikings aren't idiots. What we could have done with a 1st and a 3rd rather than a 2nd and a beat-up RB?

The only thing that favors Diggs in comparison to D-Hop is age. But clearly D-Hop is far from finished. Then there's the negative effect this will have on Watson. Randall Cobb is a stopgap. Wish we had traded Fuller instead.
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Old 03-17-2020, 11:31 AM
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Indeed. The CBS analysis of the Diggs deal basically says, don't compare it to the Hopkins deal because the Vikings aren't idiots. What we could have done with a 1st and a 3rd rather than a 2nd and a beat-up RB?

The only thing that favors Diggs in comparison to D-Hop is age. But clearly D-Hop is far from finished. Then there's the negative effect this will have on Watson. Randall Cobb is a stopgap. Wish we had traded Fuller instead.
Diggs is one year younger. 26 is not more valuable than 27 in the NFL. Age doesn't mitigate the embarrassing difference in return for them one bit. I'm not saying you were defending the deal based on age. I'm just being clear that it was zero factor here.

We have the worst GM in modern pro sports and in the last 12 months he has ruined our franchise in a way that will take a half decade to come back from. Deshaun Watson's career has been tanked. He has zero chance at winning anything meaningful, and the worst part is that Watson's brilliance is the thing O'Brien has traded on to amass an unprecedented amount of power in our franchise.
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Old 03-17-2020, 05:20 PM
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I'm guessing Hopkins was a threat to hold out for a monster contract, which I assume the Cardinals are prepared to give him. I'm in absolutely NO way defending this trade or saying it is at all favorable to the Diggs one (since in part Hopkins had I think 3 more years on his current contract and is arguably the top WR in the league at the moment), but it's of course not as simple as comparing their ages and production.

That said, it's a failing of the organization that they have not been able to retain Duane Brown, Jadeveon Clowney, and now DeAndre Hopkins (and maybe D.J. Reader, who is off to Cincinnati)... team leaders who did deserve to be paid. It's sends a poor and recurring message to the rest of roster, namely Deshaun Watkins.

J.J. Watt and Whitney Mercilus seem to buck that trend, but they are proving to be the exception here.
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Old 03-17-2020, 10:15 PM
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Don't forget CareBear. We didn't have enough to keep Hopkins or Reader but, goshdarnit, O'Brien wasn't *about* to part with CareBear.
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