Official Texans @ Jaguars Game Thread (London), 11/3/2019

[Arky]

Originally Posted by barrett

That’s some deep insight. If things had gone different then things would be different.

Eheh. Well, I think his main point was that the Jags are a better team than the Texans. Raw team statistics tell me the Texans have the better offense but the Jags have the better defense. So, I've got them as kinda even. The Texan defense has been a disappointment.... just 3 INT's on the year although good at causing fumbles....

Football Outsiders who I've never had much respect for, has the Jags power ranked 11th with the Texans 13th. They rank the Jags individual offense and defense both better than the Texans offense and defense...

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Arky

Eheh. Well, I think his main point was that the Jags are a better team than the Texans. Raw team statistics tell me the Texans have the better offense but the Jags have the better defense. So, I've got them as kinda even. The Texan defense has been a disappointment.... just 3 INT's on the year although good at causing fumbles....

Football Outsiders who I've never had much respect for, has the Jags power ranked 11th with the Texans 13th. They rank the Jags individual offense and defense both better than the Texans offense and defense...

Everyone with a website needs interesting takes to sell and drive discussion. Simply saying the team with the better record, head to head win, and infinitely better QB is the better team doesn't make anyone talk.

[HPF Bob]

I just wonder how the Texans will adjust to the long flight and the awful food? The Jaguars are used to this crap. Therefore, I'd favor the Jags by 7.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by barrett

Everyone with a website needs interesting takes to sell and drive discussion. Simply saying the team with the better record, head to head win, and infinitely better QB is the better team doesn't make anyone talk.

OK. Not sure where you're going with that.... Are you implying that Walter is just throwing contrary stuff out to get hits on his website? I dunno about that. He furnishes a lot of hard data - not just his opinions - and (claims to) wager on the games he believes will be winners. In my book, that qualifies him as a resource. I don't always agree with him but I think he's gotta better and more educated take than the average schmo....

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I just wonder how the Texans will adjust to the long flight and the awful food? The Jaguars are used to this crap. Therefore, I'd favor the Jags by 7.

That's a good point. It'll be interesting to see if OB can keep them focused.....

[chuck]

The food in London is awesome. That's really all I have.

Oh, don't eat vindaloo the night before a flight back home. You're welcome.

[chuck]

Wake up, you goons.

[Arky]

Gametime!

Texans to receive the opening kickoff.

Texans drive down the field but penaties keep them pushed back.

Fairbairn makes good from 52.

Texans 3, Jags 0

8:20 left in the 1st qtr.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Arky

OK. Not sure where you're going with that.... Are you implying that Walter is just throwing contrary stuff out to get hits on his website? I dunno about that. He furnishes a lot of hard data - not just his opinions - and (claims to) wager on the games he believes will be winners. In my book, that qualifies him as a resource. I don't always agree with him but I think he's gotta better and more educated take than the average schmo....



That's a good point. It'll be interesting to see if OB can keep them focused.....

Walter way overthought this one. The Texans are a MUCH better team than the Jags and everything in the world indicates that. But trying to find the angle on the game had him convinced that the better team with Deshaun Watson was somehow worse than the lesser team with Gardner Minshew.

[HPF Bob]

Karma finally catches up to Indy (of course, it would be the Steelers). Viniateri shanks a winning FG attempt.

Titans about to be closed out vs. Panthers.

Hello, first place Texans!

Updated standings:

Houston 6-3
Indy 5-3
Jacksonville 4-5
Tennessee 4-5

[HPF Bob]

In fact, if the Patriots beat Baltimore tonight, the Texans jump all the way up to the #2 seed in the AFC. They own the tiebreaker with KC based on head-to-head play.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by barrett

Walter way overthought this one. The Texans are a MUCH better team than the Jags and everything in the world indicates that. But trying to find the angle on the game had him convinced that the better team with Deshaun Watson was somehow worse than the lesser team with Gardner Minshew.

Yep, he was wrong on this one. It happens. Still, he's up $9500 on the year so I wouldn't dismiss him as an idiot....

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Zack Cunningham had one of the coolest tackles I've ever seen today. I'll have to rewatch but I think it was 4th qtr, a punt return. He ran up and just pushed the guy with the ball causing the guy to lose his feet and go flying. Like "sit down!". I lol'ed.

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Cautiously optimistic that the offense is finding itself with all the RPO stuff. I hope we've seen the last of Watson spending the entire game (Carolina game) trying to be a pocket passer....

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I have the Pats -3 as my best bet (double win or double loss) this week vs. the Ravens in the money contest I am in. Nice to see the Ravens scoring kinda easily even though it is to my detriment.... Ravens 17, Pats 13 at the half as I type.....

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Arky

Yep, he was wrong on this one. It happens. Still, he's up $9500 on the year so I wouldn't dismiss him as an idiot....

I am guessing he got up $9500 by "furnishing hard data - not just opinions", as you said earlier in the thread. But obviously this time he didn't go with data and instead with opinions that ran contrary to data (Jacksonville could have won the first game so they basically have a better record if the past were only different, Marrone is better than O'Brien, Jags are better everywhere but QB/WR1/LB).

Like I said, Houston is flat better than Jacksonville and that's an easy call. Only trying to find an angle that nobody sees could lead to any other conclusion.

Minshew is terrible and only the media narrative created by his moustache hides that at all. It's mind blowing incompetence that their staff is considering starting him over Foles (unless they're playing for next year which I can't imagine from a staff that will likely get fired for 6-10).