2019 Training Camp Thread

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

To me that's the Deshaun Watson effect.

Whatever flaw I see, no matter how big, I can imagine Watson making that flaw irrelevant with his special play. I honestly think the best he has played is already better than any QB in the NFL. And if he does it enough to make the playoffs and then has a hot month I think we win the super bowl in spite of our 5-11 talent.

Wow barrett didn't know you had so much confidance in the Texans or maybe I should say Watson ? I don't see Watson even in the conversation with Mahomes as the top young QB in the league so surprised to see you say his best is better than all the others ?
I hope you are right about everything you say because nothing I'd like better than seeing the Texans make it to the SB.

[barrett]

Watson isn't the player Mahomes is at this point. Mahomes gets rid of the ball on time and makes off schedule plays. By getting rid of the ball he passes on the play making to big time play makers and lets them get hit.

Too often Watson holds the ball in anticipation of making an off schedule play. If he had a TE or RB who could make a play for him then that might improve some. Right now he has nobody in the short passing game and it makes him reliant on downfield big plays and intermediate plays. He needs to learn to let a play go and get them on the next one. His amazing talent leads him to think every play can be a winner.

But Watson combines one of the best deep balls in the league with the most escapability and that combo terrorizes defenses. They are left to defend for longer then 3 seconds against a guy who can drop a ball on the WRs head anywhere on the field. Put a healthy Will Fuller on the field for 16 games and I wouldn't be shocked to see him produce Mahomes numbers. Give him the full package of talent Mahomes plays with and I think he breaks the NFL even before he totally figures things out.

[barrett]

Foreman Cut.

We have zero talent at the position that is easiest and cheapest to acquire talent. Super weird.

[HPF Bob]

CBS (and likely others) see it as an opening to acquire Melvin Gordon in trade with LAC.

[Joshua]

You don't need to cut Foreman to go after Gordon. One has nothing to do with the other, as one would be the starter making millions and the other is rookie deal back-up making 3rd round money.

And I would be very surprised if they make any run at Gordon considering the amount of draft capital it would take to acquire him as well as the contract he's after.

Seems like just the latest in a string of bumbling moves by them. It had been reported that he was not the most diligent rehabber and that their were some attitude issues. Throw in the fact that he was recovering from arguably the worst injury a RB can suffer, you would think the Texans would have done something to prepare for the possibility that he wouldn't cut it. But no, here we are again with a position group completely and predictably decimated.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Joshua

You don't need to cut Foreman to go after Gordon. One has nothing to do with the other, as one would be the starter making millions and the other is rookie deal back-up making 3rd round money.

And I would be very surprised if they make any run at Gordon considering the amount of draft capital it would take to acquire him as well as the contract he's after.

Seems like just the latest in a string of bumbling moves by them. It had been reported that he was not the most diligent rehabber and that their were some attitude issues. Throw in the fact that he was recovering from arguably the worst injury a RB can suffer, you would think the Texans would have done something to prepare for the possibility that he wouldn't cut it. But no, here we are again with a position group completely and predictably decimated.

The backup RBs need to play ST. So if you get Gordon then Foreman is less valuable then all of the various camp flotsam since he doesn't play ST.

But I am in full agreement that our RB depth chart is sad.

And finally it doesn't sound like the release had anything to do with health but rather with attitude.

[Arky]

Harris Hits: Day 1 in Green Bay

The Texans took the training camp show on the road, all the way to Green Bay for Monday’s workout and what a day it was! It started with the Texans (and Packers, of course) on bikes and ended with one of the best catches on the day by a rookie tight end. I was writing notes furiously, so let me try to decipher my notes and pound out some Harris Hits from the great state of Wisconsin......................

One of the best throws from Deshaun Watson during the day was a dart he threw to tight end Jordan Akins during that 11-on-11 drill. The second-year tight end had just one step on the defender and Watson threw a dime that Akins snatched for a first down............

As we watched practice, my dad said to me “hey, who’s number 11?” Watching the other end of the field, I just responded with “Stevie Mitchell. Why?” My dad goes “he’s catching everything.” So, I turned that direction and right on cue, quarterback AJ McCarron dropped a deep ball right into Mitchell’s lap for a touchdown. Then, on the very next play, Mitchell took a quick hitch and seemed to run upfield by everyone for a huge gain. Number 11 continues to make an impression in this training camp, including on my pops...........................

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