Official Texans @ Rams Game Thread, 11/12/2017

[Arky]

Originally Posted by barrett

Savage is a bad backup QB. He has poor pocket awareness, poor presnap recognition, and poor accuracy. His solid arm strength and size are rendered useless by the fact that he doesn't know where to throw it.

I'd say he's near the bottom of the 9 QBs we've played the last 4 years. I'd take Yates or Weeden over him.

At this point, I agree but I can recall some of these same things being said about Keenum (he of the 0-8 record) a few years ago.....

I'm convinced the term "reserving judgement" is not your vocabulary, barrett....

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Arky

At this point, I agree but I can recall some of these same things being said about Keenum (he of the 0-8 record) a few years ago.....

I'm convinced the term "reserving judgement" is not your vocabulary, barrett....

There are plenty of times it's smart to reserve judgement. When a guy has talent it's worth waiting through plenty of mistakes to see if the talent shines through. When a guy has no talent and no pedigree and has never been thought of as more than a backup, then plays below even those low expectations, there is no reason to reserve judgement.

Even if Tom Savage became the most he can possibly be and maximized every bit of potential and found the perfect situation he'd still be a replacement level player.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by barrett

There are plenty of times it's smart to reserve judgement. When a guy has talent it's worth waiting through plenty of mistakes to see if the talent shines through. When a guy has no talent and no pedigree and has never been thought of as more than a backup, then plays below even those low expectations, there is no reason to reserve judgement.

Even if Tom Savage became the most he can possibly be and maximized every bit of potential and found the perfect situation he'd still be a replacement level player.

Spoken like a true fan!

[HPF Bob]

I looked it up. Mr. Keenum has a 14-17 career record as a starter which is quite impressive since he began 0-8. The Rams, after all, were no great shakes while he was there and the Vikings are a .500 team.

He also went undrafted while Mr. Savage was a fourth-round selection.

While he was a Texan, Keenum's issues were inexperience and playing behind a shitty offensive line. Savage's issues now are inexperience and playing behind a shitty offensive line. That doesn't mean Savage will ever be as good as Keenum or even have the chance to be as good.

Just noting some similarities.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I looked it up. Mr. Keenum has a 14-17 career record as a starter which is quite impressive since he began 0-8. The Rams, after all, were no great shakes while he was there and the Vikings are a .500 team.

He also went undrafted while Mr. Savage was a fourth-round selection.

While he was a Texan, Keenum's issues were inexperience and playing behind a shitty offensive line. Savage's issues now are inexperience and playing behind a shitty offensive line. That doesn't mean Savage will ever be as good as Keenum or even have the chance to be as good.

Just noting some similarities.

Interesting goings-on up there in Minnesota. Bridgewater is ready to go but they might keep on using Keenum. The undrafted guy might start ahead of the late 1st round pick. They have Bradford (injured), Keenum and Bridgewater. That's a pretty good trio to address the QB situation.....

As for Savage, we might not know if he can grow/develop/get better with Bill "Captain Hook" O'Brien calling the shots....