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[Joshua]

Originally Posted by chuck

I've never known you to be anything other than a thoughtful poster but this am radio take is mind boggling in its idiocy.

Surely you've heard the phrase "inmates running the asylum" in your life. What message did you think they were trying to convey? Did you think the person saying this was actually suggesting people are clinically insane?

I think it is abundantly evident that the point McNair was trying to make was that the success of their business, for good or bad, will be determined by the owners, not backup QBs.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Joshua

Surely you've heard the phrase "inmates running the asylum" in your life. What message did you think they were trying to convey? Did you think the person saying this was actually suggesting people are clinically insane?

I think it is abundantly evident that the point McNair was trying to make was that the success of their business, for good or bad, will be determined by the owners, not backup QBs.

But of course McNair did not mean the expression in a literal sense. It's just that right or wrong many of the players, especially some of the black players, are so hypersensitive about it all these days.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

But of course McNair did not mean the expression in a literal sense. It's just that right or wrong many of the players, especially some of the black players, are so hypersensitive about it all these days.

You're correct. But that doesn't mean I have to go along with it and reward it. I don't want to live in a world where the rules are made by those who claim/pretend to be the most offended. It's a terrible incentive structure and, dare I say, would only result in the inmates running the asylum. Literally.

[chuck]

Christ, you necks are fking hopeless.

[Big Texas]

I will throw in my two cents for whatever its worth.

Racism has been prevalent for a very long time. However, over the last 10-20 years those most racist had began to retreat to mere behind closed doors conversation. This confused many people (mostly white people). The perception was that racism was dying off. When in reality it was just no longer acceptable to be said out in public.

Whether you believe it or not. Trump opened some doors that should have remained closed. He began to make generalizations about groups of people in very unprofessional ways. I do not say this to start a political debate. (I am not interested in that at all). I am only pointing out that he made stereotypes the new norm.

The more he tweets the more people become comfortable with saying "whatever they feel" without regard for common decency.

Then people began making statements like "stop being so sensitive" "stop being so butt hurt" which only heightened tensions. There can be no compromise when professionalism, common decency, and respect are no longer priorities.

Just because you CAN say something does not mean you SHOULD.

McNair is 80 years old. Which means he was raised during a time where racism was the norm. So it is not above the scope of reality that he could still have some racist views. And then again he could not be racist. Whatever the case, no one knows for sure. So stop taking up for him when you don't know. Maybe you should just say "I hope he did not mean it that way".

Just my two cents. Intelligent debate is welcomed. However, emotional reactions will be met with silence.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by Big Texas

I will throw in my two cents for whatever its worth.

Racism has been prevalent for a very long time. However, over the last 10-20 years those most racist had began to retreat to mere behind closed doors conversation. This confused many people (mostly white people). The perception was that racism was dying off. When in reality it was just no longer acceptable to be said out in public.

Whether you believe it or not. Trump opened some doors that should have remained closed. He began to make generalizations about groups of people in very unprofessional ways. I do not say this to start a political debate. (I am not interested in that at all). I am only pointing out that he made stereotypes the new norm.

The more he tweets the more people become comfortable with saying "whatever they feel" without regard for common decency.

Then people began making statements like "stop being so sensitive" "stop being so butt hurt" which only heightened tensions. There can be no compromise when professionalism, common decency, and respect are no longer priorities.

Just because you CAN say something does not mean you SHOULD.

McNair is 80 years old. Which means he was raised during a time where racism was the norm. So it is not above the scope of reality that he could still have some racist views. And then again he could not be racist. Whatever the case, no one knows for sure. So stop taking up for him when you don't know. Maybe you should just say "I hope he did not mean it that way".

Just my two cents. Intelligent debate is welcomed. However, emotional reactions will be met with silence.

If no one knows, how about stop calling him a racist? I find it odd that you think the side that gives him the benefit of the doubt and doesn't assume the worst and brand him a racist is the one to be chastised.

[Big Texas]

Originally Posted by Joshua

If no one knows, how about stop calling him a racist? I find it odd that you think the side that gives him the benefit of the doubt and doesn't assume the worst and brand him a racist is the one to be chastised.

What chastisement are you referring to?

I am only suggesting that people not be so quick to jump on a side period. Either for or against. The only thing that is known for certain is what he said. The fact that he apologized for it is also an acknowledgement of SOME form of wrong doing. Even if it is only the fact that he spoke unprofessionally in what was supposed to be a professional meeting.

I am not chastising anyone. I am not in a position to do that. I am only offering my opinion.