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Old 10-27-2017, 11:21 PM
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Not disputing that. "They" can vilify him all they want. Call him names. Crucify him. Quit football in protest. That's their problem. He's issued a public apology. At some point everyone has to move on.....

Just a bad distraction at the wrong time. Vegas is watching. The spread has risen from Seattle by 5½ to 7½....
Actually nobody has to move on. Nobody moved on with Donald Sterling and he had to go away. We have no idea how this plays out and we have no idea whether the players will just move on.

Just like fans can stop watching, and owners can not hire guys who kneel, the players can not play for owners who make racially charged statements. And make no mistake it is racially charged. There is nothing that bothers the African American community more than prisons, and McNair decides to change the metaphor to make it about prisons and inmates. That's not a slip of the tongue. You don't make up whole new sayings that have never been said unless there is something behind it. Add to it that he's the biggest republican donor in Houston, and we now have a team that no black player will want to sign with for the next 5 years. Bob McNair has torpedoed the entire organization and while guys will play this week and collect paychecks, a large number of them will never forget this as long as McNair owns the team.
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Old 10-27-2017, 11:47 PM
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Actually nobody has to move on. Nobody moved on with Donald Sterling and he had to go away. We have no idea how this plays out and we have no idea whether the players will just move on.

Just like fans can stop watching, and owners can not hire guys who kneel, the players can not play for owners who make racially charged statements. And make no mistake it is racially charged. There is nothing that bothers the African American community more than prisons, and McNair decides to change the metaphor to make it about prisons and inmates. That's not a slip of the tongue. You don't make up whole new sayings that have never been said unless there is something behind it. Add to it that he's the biggest republican donor in Houston, and we now have a team that no black player will want to sign with for the next 5 years. Bob McNair has torpedoed the entire organization and while guys will play this week and collect paychecks, a large number of them will never forget this as long as McNair owns the team.
Sorry, I disagree.
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Old 10-27-2017, 11:53 PM
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So, it was a dumb thing to say, but I don't think McNair is a redneck or racist.

I think McNair has done a lot to help Houston as well, including making large contributions to JJs Harvey recovery funds.


I do hope racism in the country is solved which was the point of the player protests.

Hope the Texans agree with that. Maybe not all will.

All can have their opinion. Plenty to fix in this country.
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Old 10-28-2017, 01:44 AM
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So, it was a dumb thing to say, but I don't think McNair is a redneck or racist.
Well, he's plainly both. What you're saying I think is that neither bothers you particularly, which is fair enough.

The protests are about something far more specific than racism, they're about the impunity with which police nationwide murder unarmed black citizens. It is lunacy, it is disgusting, it is shameful and it must stop. I for one am proud that people with a public platform are using it to bring attention to this horrible situation. I wish that more people would do more.

Entertainingly enough, the owners' being stupid, tone deaf dicks on this is simply amplifying everything and bringing into clearer focus just what a plantation racket the league really is.
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Old 10-28-2017, 03:20 AM
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I agree with your second paragraph.

I think you totally misunderstood or i was not clear in first paragraph.

The third paragraph, I'd rather see some positive suggestions to solve the problem. Maybe town hall meetings with owners, players, community, city leaders, and police? ,

Provide a way to continue the protest/discussion so that the flag can be respected as well.

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Old 10-28-2017, 05:58 AM
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The third paragraph, I'd rather see some positive suggestions to solve the problem. Maybe town hall meetings with owners, players, community, city leaders, and police? ,

Provide a way to continue the protest/discussion so that the flag can be respected as well.
Mark Cuban told his players they could make a recorded statement that would play on the jumbotron before the national anthem. This gives them the platform while removing the flag and the anthem from the equation. The protest during the anthem is as tone deaf as the owners response to it. Every owner should offer some avenue like Cuban did.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:44 AM
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I think you totally misunderstood or i was not clear in first paragraph.
The guy is a rich white 80 year old from South Carolina. It would take an extraordinary individual produced by those circumstances not to be racist to some degree. I can well imagine reasonable people deciding that that's just not particularly relevant when evaluating the fellow. It would be great, though, if he's exercise a bit more circumspection when speaking in public.
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Old 10-28-2017, 05:30 PM
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I'm glad McNair had a face to face apology and QNA with players before they took off for Seattle.
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