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Old 09-22-2016, 11:10 PM
barrett barrett is offline
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O'Brien's teams have laid giant eggs on multiple occasions now. We generally look competent from week to week, but we have occasions where we just completely no show. It is hard to know what to make of that. On a certain level a loss is a loss, but on another level I doubt this could have gone worse if nobody showed up for practice this week and we held our starting 22 out. We get totally blown out more than bad teams, but win far more than any bad team should. It makes it impossible to put any expectations as to what this team will do on a given sunday.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:11 PM
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This play calling is utterly irresponsible.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:18 PM
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O'Brien's teams have laid giant eggs on multiple occasions now. We generally look competent from week to week, but we have occasions where we just completely no show. It is hard to know what to make of that. On a certain level a loss is a loss, but on another level I doubt this could have gone worse if nobody showed up for practice this week and we held our starting 22 out. We get totally blown out more than bad teams, but win far more than any bad team should. It makes it impossible to put any expectations as to what this team will do on a given sunday.
This is very true on all accounts. I'm convinced the coaching is good enough to beat lessor and marginal teams, and coaching and talent is there to beat good teams on occasion. However, the talent just isn't there to beat exceptionally talented and well coached teams. We're just not there. I sure hope these guys invest heavily in the OL next year in the draft and FA.
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Old 09-23-2016, 10:20 AM
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O'Brien's teams have laid giant eggs on multiple occasions now. We generally look competent from week to week, but we have occasions where we just completely no show. It is hard to know what to make of that. On a certain level a loss is a loss, but on another level I doubt this could have gone worse if nobody showed up for practice this week and we held our starting 22 out. We get totally blown out more than bad teams, but win far more than any bad team should. It makes it impossible to put any expectations as to what this team will do on a given sunday.
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These were supposed to be Belichick disciples (O'Brien, Crennel, Vrabel, etc.) and yet they can be this completely outcoached by The Master starting a rookie QB in his first start - something simply doesn't add up here.

It amazes me that whenever Kubiak's teams sucked this badly everybody placed the blame squarely on Kubes. So, where's the hate for O'Brien? Why does Coach Foulmouth get a pass?

Regardless who coaches, we only seem to win big games against the Bengals (Hi, T.J. Yates). We can't beat the big boys of this conference (New England, Denver, Pittsburgh) home or away. It's as if there is a ceiling they believe they can't penetrate.

This was a total butt-whipping by a team playing with one hand tied behind their backs. More than feeling shame, one has to ask if this coaching staff can win big games or just continue to feast on their own division and go 9-7 or 8-8 every year.
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Old 09-23-2016, 10:55 AM
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How does your RB get 21 rushes in a game you lost by 27 points?

Playcalling was like this against the Chiefs, too, lots of first down runs. Just wasn't as noticeable because the Texans didn't fumble two kickoff returns and had a lead. Peter King (SI) even tweeted late last night about the dumbass third down playcalling before he remembered he was supposed to be a mindless tool and deleted it.

What made last night difficult was that Texans fans were given hope in the form of a rookie third string QB and a largely still ineffective Gronkowski. O'Brien, Crennel, Vrabel, Izzo... these guys know how to win at New England.

Reality check. This was a loss on everyone's schedule when it came out, and for good reason. On the road against one of the better teams. Short week against one of the game's best strategists. Young offense still learning. No Duane Brown, Watt still recovering, no Cushing.

Not trying to make excuses, but a short week on the road in Foxboro is what it is. Lots of lopsided Thursday Night games for similar reasons. Texans still lead the division. Should the playoff road lead them back to New England, hard to expect a better result with Brady back, but perhaps the Texans offense (and its playcalling) will have matured by then. And maybe the team won't fumble two kick returns.
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Old 09-23-2016, 12:00 PM
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I admire the positive spin, Keith, but man, they were so totally "pantsed" on prime time national TV. I am seeing words like "pathetic" and "pitiful" to describe the Texans in the neutral football forums that I read...

If you look at the team stats, they're pretty close except for the turnover (Texans 3, Pats 0) and penalty (Texans 6/43, Pats 3/15) categories. Take away the 2 fumbles and say the game finishes 13-0 and hey, it looks like an old fashioned slugfest football game. But that isn't the way it happened. It's a real case of stats not showing what the eye is seeing.....

I didn't see it coming but I could speculate the Texans may have been in somewhat of a let-down situation with just having defeated nemesis KC.... Hard to imagine with New England on the horizon, but possibly played into it somewhat....

I dunno. Like a shark, a football team has gotta keep moving.... I will be expecting a much better showing against the Titans and even @ Vikings after that. But then it's two more prime time games against the Colts and Denver.... those can either be a chance for redemption or more of the same...
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:24 PM
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I've about decided that while most NFL coaches are smart for coaches, Belichick is simply smart. If Belichick had not become a football coach, I have no doubt he could have fleeced people out of their retirement savings like the Wolf of Wall Street guy or become the biggest A-hole attorney you ever wanted to meet. I don't think you can say the same about most other coaches. I think that's the difference in why his teams seem so much more prepared than his opponents. Belichick is truly brilliant. Most NFL coaches (including, it looks like our own) are not.
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:01 PM
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What Bronco fans are posting.
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Old 09-23-2016, 05:33 PM
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Why would I care what Broncos fans are posting? Is the NFL fan known for unbiased thinking in a way that they'd have something of value to offer on the 1 game of ours they watched this season?
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