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Old 04-29-2016, 09:34 PM
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2nd round results:

1(32) Browns Ogbah, Emmanuel DE 6'4" 273 Oklahoma St. 6.0
2(33) Titans Dodd, Kevin DE 6'5" 277 Clemson 6.2
3(34) Cowboys Smith, Jaylon OLB 6'2" 223 Notre Dame 5.4
4(35) Chargers Henry, Hunter TE 6'5" 250 Arkansas 6.2
5(36) Jaguars (From Ravens) Jack, Myles OLB 6'1" 245 UCLA 7.3
6(37) Chiefs (From 49ers) Jones, Chris DT 6'6" 310 Mississippi St. 6.2
7(38) Dolphins (From Ravens through Jaguars) Howard, Xavien CB 6'0" 201 Baylor 5.6
8(39) Buccaneers Spence, Noah DE 6'2" 251 Eastern Kentucky 5.9
9(40) Giants Shepard, Sterling WR 5'10" 194 Oklahoma 5.9
10(41) Bills (From Bears) Ragland, Reggie ILB 6'1" 247 Alabama 6.4
11(42) Ravens (From Dolphins) Correa, Kamalei DE 6'3" 243 Boise St. 5.8
12(43) Titans (From Eagles through Rams) Johnson, Austin NT 6'4" 314 Penn St. 5.9
13(44) Raiders Ward, Jihad DE 6'5" 297 Illinois 5.6
14(45) Titans (From Rams) Henry, Derrick RB 6'3" 247 Alabama 6.1
15(46) Lions Robinson, A'Shawn DT 6'4" 307 Alabama 6.3
16(47) Saints Thomas, Michael WR 6'3" 212 Ohio St. 5.8
17(48) Packers (From Colts) Spriggs, Jason OT 6'6" 301 Indiana 5.8
18(49) Seahawks (From Bears through Bills) Reed, Jarran DT 6'3" 307 Alabama 6.1
19(50) Texans (From Falcons) Martin, Nick OG 6'4" 299 Notre Dame 5.7
20(51) Jets Hackenberg, Christian QB 6'4" 223 Penn St. 5.5
21(52) Falcons (From Texans) Jones, Deion OLB 6'1" 222 LSU 5.7
22(53) Redskins Cravens, Su'a OLB 6'1" 226 USC 5.8
23(54) Vikings Alexander, Mackensie CB 5'10" 190 Clemson 5.9
24(55) Bengals Boyd, Tyler WR 6'1" 197 Pittsburgh 5.9
25(56) Bears (From Seahawks) Whitehair, Cody OG 6'4" 301 Kansas St. 6.1
26(57) Colts (From Packers) Green, T.J. FS 6'2" 209 Clemson 5.6
27(58) Steelers Davis, Sean CB 6'1" 201 Maryland 5.5
28(59) Buccaneers (From Chiefs) Aguayo, Roberto K 6'0" 207 Florida St. 5.5
29(60) Patriots Jones, Cyrus CB 5'10" 197 Alabama 5.5
30(61) Saints (From Patriots through Cardinals) Bell, Vonn FS 5'11" 199 Ohio St. 5.6
31(62) Panthers Bradberry, James CB 6'1" 211 Samford 5.3
32(63) Broncos Gotsis, Adam DT 6'4" 287 Georgia Tech 5.5
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:54 PM
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Another good WR from Ohio State , converted QB Braxton Miller. I'm ok, but surprised by the pick. Gonna be competitive at WR for sure.

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Old 04-29-2016, 09:55 PM
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Texans pick #85 - WR Braxton Miller, Ohio St.

Can throw....Multi-talented wildcat/package guy, IMO....... the receiving corp should be good for many years..
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:55 PM
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Texans take Braxton Miller in the 3rd. I wasn't planning to take a WR for the first two days but Smith thinks we need two of them. Has he given up on Jaelen Strong after the pot arrest?

Needless to say, I'm not thrilled.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:17 PM
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The new rules make slot receivers uncoverable. Smaller, quicker WRs are dominating football in ways that were not possible before. It is embarrassing we haven't had a decent slot guy ever. It's been just as glaring a hole as TE in my mind.

Converted QBs make some of the best slot guys in the NFL. They have the phone booth quickness to exploit the choice routes that make the best modern NFL offenses go. Edelman is a perfect example.

I don't know nearly enough about Miller to declare him a WR, but I am very happy we are trying to address the total lack of a real slot guy on our offense.

And Bob, I am not sure how you could possibly look at our roster and think we didn't need a WR in the first 2 days. Our #2 and #3 WRs last year were replacement level vets who combined for just over 1000 yards (Shorts and Washington) and roughly 347 drops. Our #4 WR had 13 more catches than Dope arrests last year. This position was a dumpster fire outside of Hopkins last year.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:25 PM
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3rd round results:

1(64) Titans Byard, Kevin S 5'11" 216 Middle Tennessee St. 5.2
2(65) Browns Nassib, Carl DE 6'7" 277 Penn St. 5.6
3(66) Chargers Tuerk, Max C 6'5" 298 USC 5.6
4(67) Cowboys Collins, Maliek DT 6'2" 311 Nebraska 5.6
5(68) 49ers Redmond, Will CB 5'11" 182 Mississippi St. 5.6
6(69) Jaguars Ngakoue, Yannick DE 6'2" 252 Maryland 5.3
7(70) Ravens Kaufusi, Bronson DE 6'6" 285 BYU 5.5
8(71) Giants Thompson, Darian S 6'2" 208 Boise St. 5.5
9(72) Bears Bullard, Jonathan DT 6'3" 285 Florida 6.0
10(73) Dolphins Drake, Kenyan RB 6'1" 210 Alabama 5.5
11(74) Chiefs (From Buccaneers) Russell, KeiVarae CB 5'11" 192 Notre Dame 5.5
12(75) Raiders Calhoun, Shilique DE 6'4" 251 Michigan St. 5.7
13(76) Browns (From Titans through Rams) Coleman, Shon OT 6'5" 307 Auburn 5.8
14(77) Panthers (From Browns through Eagles through Lions) Worley, Daryl CB 6'1" 204 West Virginia 5.3
15(78) Patriots (From Saints) Thuney, Joe OG 6'5" 304 N.C. State 5.5
16(79) Eagles Seumalo, Isaac OG 6'4" 303 Oregon St. 5.4
17(80) Bills Washington, Adolphus DT 6'3" 301 Ohio St. 5.6
18(81) Falcons Hooper, Austin TE 6'4" 254 Stanford 5.7
19(82) Colts Clark, Le'Raven OT 6'5" 316 Texas Tech 6.0
20(83) Jets Jenkins, Jordan OLB 6'3" 259 Georgia 5.7
21(84) Redskins Fuller, Kendall CB 5'11" 187 Virginia Tech 5.6
22(85) Texans Miller, Braxton WR 6'1" 201 Ohio St. 5.6
23(86) Dolphins (From Vikings) Carroo, Leonte WR 6'0" 211 Rutgers 5.4
24(87) Bengals Vigil, Nick ILB 6'2" 239 Utah St. 5.3
25(88) Packers Fackrell, Kyler OLB 6'5" 245 Utah St. 5.8
26(89) Steelers Hargrave, Javon DT 6'1" 309 South Carolina St. 5.5
27(90) Seahawks Prosise, C.J. RB 6'0" 220 Notre Dame 5.5
29(91) Patriots Brissett, Jacoby QB 6'4" 231 N.C. State 5.5
30(92) Cardinals Williams, Brandon CB 5'11" 197 Texas A&M 5.3
31(93) Browns (Fram Panthers) Kessler, Cody QB 6'1" 220 USC 5.4
32(94) Seahawks (From Broncos) Vannett, Nick TE 6'6" 257 Ohio St. 5.7
33(95) Lions (Compensatory Selection) Glasgow, Graham C 6'6" 307 Michigan 5.5
34(96) Patriots (Compensatory Selection) Valentine, Vincent DT 6'4" 329 Nebraska 5.2
35(97) Seahawks (Compensatory Selection) Odhiambo, Rees OG 6'4" 314 Boise St. 5.4
36(98) Broncos (Compensatory Selection) Simmons, Justin FS 6'2" 202 Boston College 5.5
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:52 PM
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Barrett, I agree that Washington was a waste but Shorts was adequate (not much more) out of the slot and also provided some trick plays. How much of that was the receivers and how much was the guys throwing them the ball? Strong simply didn't see the field that often and my question is why. When he got into games and we threw to him he did pretty well. Did he not understand the playbook? Was he a discipline problem?

Yes, WR was a need and I had no problem adding one in the draft but we have too many needs elsewhere to spend 67% of the first three rounds of the draft on one position. Plus, I remind you we recently drafted guys from Notre Dame (Nix) and Ohio State (Posey) who were busts so why go back to those wells again?
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:54 PM
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Incidentally, we gave up our sixth-round pick to Atlanta to trade up for Martin so we just have three choices (a 4th and two 5ths) Saturday unless we trade back for more picks.
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Old 04-30-2016, 12:08 AM
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I can see barrett's point and I can see Bob's, too. I think the team needs the WRs because as barrett points out the production outside of Nuke has been disgusting. My biggest problem is that the team drafts like such dickwits that they can't ever build on a draft because the last draft (and the previous one, etc.) sucked so bad that you can never say Hey, we filled three or four needs last year so let's move on to new problems.

I won't list all of the recent draft disappointments because I know everyone here knows them all too well. I'll just point out that Strong, whatever his potential, whatever his ceiling, could barely see the field. And the team obviously doesn't believe in him otherwise they wouldn't have drafted Miller. But the team traded up to get a guy that couldn't get on the fking field. That is exactly the sort of drafting incompetence we see year after year after year.

I don't mind the Texans drafting two receivers in the first three rounds but I do mind them having traded up for a receiver the year before that they obviously have no confidence in.
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Old 04-30-2016, 05:43 AM
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Barrett, I agree that Washington was a waste but Shorts was adequate (not much more) out of the slot and also provided some trick plays. How much of that was the receivers and how much was the guys throwing them the ball? Strong simply didn't see the field that often and my question is why. When he got into games and we threw to him he did pretty well. Did he not understand the playbook? Was he a discipline problem?

Yes, WR was a need and I had no problem adding one in the draft but we have too many needs elsewhere to spend 67% of the first three rounds of the draft on one position. Plus, I remind you we recently drafted guys from Notre Dame (Nix) and Ohio State (Posey) who were busts so why go back to those wells again?
Do you seriously equate guys drafted from the same schools? By that logic we never should have drafted Watt in 2011 since Garrett Graham was bad in 2010.
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