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Old 04-20-2016, 12:43 PM
HPF Bob HPF Bob is offline
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Fanspeak updated several boards and I made two trade-downs. Cheer up - you only have to endure this 10 more days.

27: R1P27 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
88: R3P25 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
99: R4P1 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
119: R4P21 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
141: R5P2 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
159: R5P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
166: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
195: R6P20 WR BRALON ADDISON OREGON

I was surprised Hackenberg fell all the way to the 4th round but that makes him a good value and less of a "threat" to Osweiler. I've been late to the Kaufusi bandwagon but he was another that was too good to pass up in the 4th. Getting another G, OT or SS will just have to wait but the Texans can add them in other ways.

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 27
ROUND: 3 PICK: 25

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1
ROUND: 5 PICK: 2
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Old 04-20-2016, 06:52 PM
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Fanspeak updated several boards and I made two trade-downs. Cheer up - you only have to endure this 10 more days.

27: R1P27 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
88: R3P25 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
99: R4P1 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
119: R4P21 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG

I've been late to the Kaufusi bandwagon but he was another that was too good to pass up in the 4th.

I'm also late to the Kaufusi bandwagon....but now I'm a believer. I'm willing to spend a2nd round pick on this guy. I've been seeing him and DT Maliek Collins drafted later in the draft than I feel they are worth. Will be interesting to see where they are selected.
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Old 04-20-2016, 08:42 PM
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I'm also late to the Kaufusi bandwagon....but now I'm a believer. I'm willing to spend a2nd round pick on this guy. I've been seeing him and DT Maliek Collins drafted later in the draft than I feel they are worth. Will be interesting to see where they are selected.
It's been a while since I posted, but this is honestly my favorite time to come here. I've been following this thread to see the draft trends and I have a couple guys I really like, but every time I draft on fanspeak, I feel there's a conspiracy that's keeps me from getting them. That and they've moved up quite a bit this month. The two players a REALLY like are Austin Johnson and Carl Nassib, both from Penn State, along with a shit ton of other very good players in this draft, but these two guys remind me a lot of Bronson Kaufusi and Maliek Collins.
That being said, I did a draft on FS using their board and this is what I came up with, with only two trades.



41: R2P10 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
72: R3P9 DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON OHIO STATE
85: R3P22 C MAX TUERK USC
106: R4P8 G DENVER KIRKLAND ARKANSAS
119: R4P21 OLB JAYLON SMITH NOTRE DAME
127: R4P29 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
159: R5P20 DT D.J. READER CLEMSON
166: R5P27 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
195: R6P20 WR AARON BURBRIDGE MICHIGAN STATE
231: R7P10 RB PEYTON BARBER AUBURN



TRADE PARTNER:
CHICAGO BEARS

SENT:
• ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
• ROUND: 2 PICK: 10
• ROUND: 3 PICK: 9
• ROUND: 4 PICK: 8
• ROUND: 4 PICK: 29

TRADE PARTNER:
MIAMI DOLPHINS

SENT:
• FUTURE ROUND 6 PICK

RECEIVED:
• ROUND: 7 PICK: 10

I honestly feel that since this is such a deep draft, it would be foolish not to trade down and grab as many picks as we can. I'm big on safties this year again, with that said I felt Kearse and Killebrew are too similar. Adolphus is my consolation prize if Nassib and Johnson are gone. Butler is a beast in the middle, but feel RJ Reader is not that bad of a replacement, why I got both I don't know, I don't usually do that. I also think BJ Goodson is a not very poor mans Reggie Ragland, just my 2 cents. I think Burbridge is a steal late in the draft! I like P. Barber late in the draft because I think we need a thumper for short/goal line yardage, as Blue simply proved too often he wasn't capable. Jaylon Smith in the 4th round was a no brainer to me.
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:50 PM
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41: R2P10 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
72: R3P9 DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON OHIO STATE
85: R3P22 C MAX TUERK USC
106: R4P8 G DENVER KIRKLAND ARKANSAS
119: R4P21 OLB JAYLON SMITH NOTRE DAME
127: R4P29 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
159: R5P20 DT D.J. READER CLEMSON
166: R5P27 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
195: R6P20 WR AARON BURBRIDGE MICHIGAN STATE
231: R7P10 RB PEYTON BARBER AUBURN


I honestly feel that since this is such a deep draft, it would be foolish not to trade down and grab as many picks as we can. I'm big on safties this year again, with that said I felt Kearse and Killebrew are too similar. Adolphus is my consolation prize if Nassib and Johnson are gone. Butler is a beast in the middle, but feel RJ Reader is not that bad of a replacement, why I got both I don't know, I don't usually do that. I also think BJ Goodson is a not very poor mans Reggie Ragland, just my 2 cents. I think Burbridge is a steal late in the draft! I like P. Barber late in the draft because I think we need a thumper for short/goal line yardage, as Blue simply proved too often he wasn't capable. Jaylon Smith in the 4th round was a no brainer to me.
I have to admit that I feel like Kaufusi and Nassib are the same type of players. I love Bronson more, but see Nassib being drafted higher. I have this problem with many players. I soured on Killebrew and Kearse after the 40 yard dash was run at the Combine. Yet, Killebrew came back on my radar after his pro day 3-Cone and Shuttle times. So Brew is back on my board. I like Vannett more than Henry and Hooper, but they are ranked higher due to the production in the passing game. Then there's Sandland and Breunacker who are impressive, but small school guys who may be later in the draft not to mention Jerrell Adams as a pass catcher. I like Kenneth Dixon more than Henry or Booker or Collins or Howard, but wonder if he lasts until the 3rd round. I love Maliek Collins and Vernon Hargraves, but they are ranked behind Chris Jones and Vernon Butler. I think Sterling Shepard is awesome and Malcolm Mitchell is a poor man's version who can be selected later. I liked Blake Martinez and Nick Vigil, but wonder if the Texans take a ILB. Plenty of conundrums to sort through.

Josh Doctson is the best WR in this draft. I'm worried about Reader's commitment to football. Adolphus Washington scares me as a bust that played well on a loaded defensive squad. I love Jaylon Smith as a person and a player, but don't know enough about his injury. I liked Burbridge but wonder if he translates to the NFL.
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:17 PM
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Jaylon Smith is out for 2016 and may not be able to resume his career at all if you listen to some. I wouldn't pick him earlier than the 5th.

Nassib is intriguing because his bio reminds me of J.J. Watt. Tall, swats passes and has not been a DE for very long. But he's still very raw and you can't be sure he'll refine his game. He's almost never available where I'm drafting. Austin Johnson projects as a true DT which is why I rate him slightly below Chris Jones for us. Jones I think can be an effective DE for a few years before he fills out and plays NT.

I'd love to get Reggie Ragland and phase out Cushing and his big salary but ILBs are going the way of fullbacks in this game so I'm leaning towards getting Conklin or Decker if they fall that far so we can phase out Duane Brown and his salary.
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:54 PM
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Nassib is intriguing because his bio reminds me of J.J. Watt. Tall, swats passes and has not been a DE for very long. But he's still very raw and you can't be sure he'll refine his game. He's almost never available where I'm drafting. Austin Johnson projects as a true DT which is why I rate him slightly below Chris Jones for us. Jones I think can be an effective DE for a few years before he fills out and plays NT.

I'd love to get Reggie Ragland and phase out Cushing and his big salary but ILBs are going the way of fullbacks in this game so I'm leaning towards getting Conklin or Decker if they fall that far so we can phase out Duane Brown and his salary.

I feel Nassib and Kaufusi are knock-off versions of JJ Watt. Which is why I like them. JJ is obviously a one-of-a-kind player.

Austin Johnson has short arms. Which detracts me from his stock as well as slow agility scores.

The ILB position, if not filled with a Freak like Darron Lee, I feel could be addressed with a player like Nick Vigil, Blake Martinez, or Joshua Perry. Thinking outside the box, maybe Kamalei Correa.

If Conklin is there at #22, I would have a hard time passing on him.
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Old 04-21-2016, 09:29 PM
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22: R1p22
wr josh doctson tcu
65: R3p2
ot jason spriggs indiana
85: R3p22
de carl nassib penn state
105: R4p7
s sean davis maryland
119: R4p21
rb cj prosise notre dame
159: R5p20
dt javon margrave south carolina state
166: R5p27
te jerell adams south carolina
176: R6p1
c graham glasgow michigan
178: R6p3
ilb blake martinez stanford
195: R6p20
qb cody kessler usc
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