Cause I'm Bored A : Pre All Star Games Mock

[HPF Bob]

I'd be happy with this. IMO, there's no "got to" player out there at #22 unless we just get lucky so a trade down for multiple picks in rounds 2-5 is the way to maximize this draft.

[painekiller]

No trades, CBS list

22: R1P22 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
160: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
167: R5P27 TE TEMARRICK HEMINGWAY SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
196: R6P20 DT ADAM GOTSIS GEORGIA TECH


I am thinking one of the two DT goes to NT and one to 3-4 DE.

I like Coleman, but I could also have gone with Fuller. I go back and forth on taking two TE, and if I were to do that I would have dropped ILB Vigil for TE Tyler Higbee.

Lastly I keep wondering if I am the only person that Ioannidis?

[HPF Bob]

I'm thinking Houston's best position is to trade down and get more second-day talent.

At this point, if I can get a 3-for-1 to trade down that includes a high 2nd, 3rd and 4th, that's better to me. Walter Football's boards are a bit whacked from the others so good talent is available late. Combining both of these led to a draft that is probably too good to be true. Note, I traded down one spot in the second for a fifth then used that pick as bait to move up on Day 3 when Alex Collins was still available.

35: R2P4 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
53: R2P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
66: R3P3 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
100: R4P1 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
160: R5P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
167: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
196: R6P20 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 4
ROUND: 3 PICK: 3
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4

TRADE PARTNER:
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

I actually had my choice of OT Conklin or DE Bullard at 2/4 and went with the OT with an eye on dumping Brown or Newton in the near future. The QBs disappeared fast so I got Hackenberg when he was the last of the six left. Still, I added other guys I see mentioned in first-round mocks like Coleman and Kelly and still had room in the 4th for Collins and Vannett so the offense got a major upgrade. Unfortunately, I didn't help the D-line like I intended but we can hopefully re-sign Crick and the coaches are high on Covington from last year's draft who came on late in the season.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I'm thinking Houston's best position is to trade down and get more second-day talent.

At this point, if I can get a 3-for-1 to trade down that includes a high 2nd, 3rd and 4th, that's better to me. Walter Football's boards are a bit whacked from the others so good talent is available late. Combining both of these led to a draft that is probably too good to be true. Note, I traded down one spot in the second for a fifth then used that pick as bait to move up on Day 3 when Alex Collins was still available.

35: R2P4 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
53: R2P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
66: R3P3 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
100: R4P1 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
160: R5P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
167: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
196: R6P20 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 4
ROUND: 3 PICK: 3
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4

TRADE PARTNER:
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

I actually had my choice of OT Conklin or DE Bullard at 2/4 and went with the OT with an eye on dumping Brown or Newton in the near future. The QBs disappeared fast so I got Hackenberg when he was the last of the six left. Still, I added other guys I see mentioned in first-round mocks like Coleman and Kelly and still had room in the 4th for Collins and Vannett so the offense got a major upgrade. Unfortunately, I didn't help the D-line like I intended but we can hopefully re-sign Crick and the coaches are high on Covington from last year's draft who came on late in the season.

Bob, I agree with your thoughts on getting multiple picks, but even with multiple picks I would not use one on Hack. I am not against taking a flyer on a QB, just not that QB and not with your 2nd pick.

Also as you stated, that list is wack. Coleman in the 3rd?

Lastly I'm not sure I drop out of the 1st completely, and I'm also not a Conklin fan, he feels like a RT only guy to me. I could be wrong on that one. I would have gone with Bultard over Conk. But thats Chocolate and Vanilla. We each have our preferences.

[painekiller]

Same list as Bob.

22: R1P22 WR WILLIAM FULLER NOTRE DAME
66: R3P3 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
85: R3P22 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
103: R4P4 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE
160: R5P20 DT ADAM GOTSIS GEORGIA TECH
167: R5P27 OT COLE TONER HARVARD
180: R6P4 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
196: R6P20 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 3
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 6 PICK: 4

[HPF Bob]

Honestly, I think the Broncos, if they can't land Kaepernick or Fitzpatrick, almost have to land a competent QB in the first round to back up Sanchez. If so, they would be wrong to stand pat at #31 and hope Lynch falls to them. I could easily see the Broncos trading up with us and giving us #31 and #63. But I'd still fall into the upper second for a 2nd, 3rd and 4th if given a chance. I think we have so many holes to fill that owning 5 picks in the first two days is better than having three picks with one at #22. But that's just me.

[painekiller]

Trade down, trade down, trade down...
And i think i over traded down.

35: R2P4 WR WILL FULLER NOTRE DAME
59: R2P28 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
93: R3P30 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
94: R3P31 OLB SU'A CRAVENS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
103: R4P4 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
120: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
127: R4P28 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS
129: R4P30 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
160: R5P20 OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN
163: R5P23 S ELIJAH SHUMATE NOTRE DAME
166: R5P26 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE
167: R5P27 WR JORDAN PAYTON UCLA
168: R5P28 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
180: R6P4 C ISAAC SEUMALO OREGON STATE
196: R6P20 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA
199: R6P23 WR CAYLEB JONES ARIZONA

TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 4
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 6 PICK: 4
ROUND: 6 PICK: 23

TRADE PARTNER:
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GET:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 28
ROUND: 4 PICK: 28
ROUND: 5 PICK: 23
ROUND: 5 PICK: 26

To many guys to keep them all.

[HPF Bob]

Actually not a bad draft but I would have done more about the front 7 in the later rounds. That's where I shop for ILBs and safeties. They normally can stick as STers if they don't start.