Cause I'm Bored A : Pre All Star Games Mock

[chuck]

I would pick Cardale Jones in the fifth round (or later) without a second thought.

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Notice how almost all these guys are players on winning programs expected to win most of the time.

This I think is under-appreciated. I would much rather take my chances with a Louis Nix than some goofy Casserly project from SE Indiana Tech. The guys from the big schools on balance get better coaching and practice and play against a much higher level of competition.

Of course watch Wentz and Lynch come out and perform far better than Goff and Cook.

[HPF Bob]

Everybody wants another Ben Roethlisberger (Bowling Green) or Joe Flacco (Delaware). Where did Favre play college ball? Oh, yeah - Southern Mississippi.

Not poking a hole in your theory but I don't think I can automatically discredit a QB from Memphis or North Dakota St. simply because they aren't among the elite conferences. Only that the dice role is a little bit more against you if you are reaching for small-college players.

[chuck]

The rapist went to Miami of Ohio. I'm certainly not suggesting writing off small school guys, just saying that I prefer guys from big schools if all else is more or less equal. Better coaching, better competition, better facilities, better nutrition, more acclimation to being on a big stage, etc.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Everybody wants another Ben Roethlisberger (Bowling Green) or Joe Flacco (Delaware). Where did Favre play college ball? Oh, yeah - Southern Mississippi.

Not poking a hole in your theory but I don't think I can automatically discredit a QB from Memphis or North Dakota St. simply because they aren't among the elite conferences. Only that the dice role is a little bit more against you if you are reaching for small-college players.

Flacco has basically played a good month of football in his 8 year NFL career. It was a well timed month, but even a QB starved franchise like ours shouldn't want another Joe Flacco.

[painekiller]

23: R1p23 wr corey coleman baylor
60: R2p29 te hunter henry arkansas
85: R3p22 rb alex collins arkansas
120: R4p21 c max tuerk southern california
122: R4p23 dt matt ioannidis temple
128: R4p29 te tyler higbee western kentucky
153: R5p13 s jayron kearse clemson
160: R5p20 qb cardale jones ohio state
196: R6p20 g denver kirkland arkansas
197: R6p21 rb aaron green tcu


trade partner: New orleans saints sent:
Round: 7 pick: 22
round: 5 pick: 27
texans received:
Round: 5 pick: 13

trade partner: New england patriots sent:
Round: 2 pick: 21
texans received:
Round: 2 pick: 29
round: 4 pick: 29
round: 6 pick: 21
round: 7 pick: 22

trade partner: Minnesota vikings sent:
Round: 1 pick: 22
texans received:
Round: 1 pick: 23
round: 4 pick: 23

[HPF Bob]

I'd be happy with this. IMO, there's no "got to" player out there at #22 unless we just get lucky so a trade down for multiple picks in rounds 2-5 is the way to maximize this draft.

[painekiller]

No trades, CBS list

22: R1P22 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
160: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
167: R5P27 TE TEMARRICK HEMINGWAY SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
196: R6P20 DT ADAM GOTSIS GEORGIA TECH


I am thinking one of the two DT goes to NT and one to 3-4 DE.

I like Coleman, but I could also have gone with Fuller. I go back and forth on taking two TE, and if I were to do that I would have dropped ILB Vigil for TE Tyler Higbee.

Lastly I keep wondering if I am the only person that Ioannidis?

[HPF Bob]

I'm thinking Houston's best position is to trade down and get more second-day talent.

At this point, if I can get a 3-for-1 to trade down that includes a high 2nd, 3rd and 4th, that's better to me. Walter Football's boards are a bit whacked from the others so good talent is available late. Combining both of these led to a draft that is probably too good to be true. Note, I traded down one spot in the second for a fifth then used that pick as bait to move up on Day 3 when Alex Collins was still available.

35: R2P4 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
53: R2P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
66: R3P3 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
100: R4P1 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
160: R5P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
167: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
196: R6P20 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 4
ROUND: 3 PICK: 3
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4

TRADE PARTNER:
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

I actually had my choice of OT Conklin or DE Bullard at 2/4 and went with the OT with an eye on dumping Brown or Newton in the near future. The QBs disappeared fast so I got Hackenberg when he was the last of the six left. Still, I added other guys I see mentioned in first-round mocks like Coleman and Kelly and still had room in the 4th for Collins and Vannett so the offense got a major upgrade. Unfortunately, I didn't help the D-line like I intended but we can hopefully re-sign Crick and the coaches are high on Covington from last year's draft who came on late in the season.