Cause I'm Bored A : Pre All Star Games Mock

[HPF Bob]

Now that we have Osweiler in the fold, look who falls to us at #22? (Fanspeak, Walter Football 3/11 board). If he's there, you gotta take him.

Not many good trade offers, but I had one.

22: R1P22 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE
52: R2P21 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
147: R5P8 DE CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA
159: R5P20 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
166: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
189: R6P11 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
198: R6P20 C MIKE MATTHEWS TEXAS A&M

TRADE PARTNER:
MIAMI DOLPHINS
SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 8
ROUND: 6 PICK: 11

[HPF Bob]

Here's an interesting one. I couldn't trade up or down in the first round. Paxton Lynch was there and I was tempted to take him but I don't want to have Osweiler start his Houston career with another QB controversy.

I later traded out of the third round because I was offered a 4th, two 5ths and a 6th.

22: R1P22 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
115: R4P16 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
120: R4P21 OLB ERIC STRIKER OKLAHOMA
144: R5P4 DT ANTWAUN WOODS USC
155: R5P15 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA
160: R5P20 S DEON BUSH MIAMI (FL)
167: R5P27 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE
195: R6P19 CB KEVON SEYMOUR USC
196: R6P20 K ROBERT AGUAYO FLORIDA ST

I added two impact LBs for the time we want to move on from Cushing and Clowney. Kelly has a chance to start as a rookie. Vannett is one of those flex-type TEs who can make use in various formations.

Cardale Jones??? Are you crazy?? Well, hear me out. He's a very raw talent but he dominated briefly and I would try to groom him as a "slash" player who could play RB, WR and throw passes from exotic formations while being the emergency QB. The dude is a load to bring down and I think he could be stashed on the practice squad while he learns.

Notice how almost all these guys are players on winning programs expected to win most of the time. I think they'd help fill out our roster in ways that one showcase player would not do.

TRADE PARTNER:
OAKLAND RAIDERS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 16
ROUND: 5 PICK: 4
ROUND: 5 PICK: 15
ROUND: 6 PICK: 19


Comments?

[chuck]

I would pick Cardale Jones in the fifth round (or later) without a second thought.

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Notice how almost all these guys are players on winning programs expected to win most of the time.

This I think is under-appreciated. I would much rather take my chances with a Louis Nix than some goofy Casserly project from SE Indiana Tech. The guys from the big schools on balance get better coaching and practice and play against a much higher level of competition.

Of course watch Wentz and Lynch come out and perform far better than Goff and Cook.

[HPF Bob]

Everybody wants another Ben Roethlisberger (Bowling Green) or Joe Flacco (Delaware). Where did Favre play college ball? Oh, yeah - Southern Mississippi.

Not poking a hole in your theory but I don't think I can automatically discredit a QB from Memphis or North Dakota St. simply because they aren't among the elite conferences. Only that the dice role is a little bit more against you if you are reaching for small-college players.

[chuck]

The rapist went to Miami of Ohio. I'm certainly not suggesting writing off small school guys, just saying that I prefer guys from big schools if all else is more or less equal. Better coaching, better competition, better facilities, better nutrition, more acclimation to being on a big stage, etc.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Everybody wants another Ben Roethlisberger (Bowling Green) or Joe Flacco (Delaware). Where did Favre play college ball? Oh, yeah - Southern Mississippi.

Not poking a hole in your theory but I don't think I can automatically discredit a QB from Memphis or North Dakota St. simply because they aren't among the elite conferences. Only that the dice role is a little bit more against you if you are reaching for small-college players.

Flacco has basically played a good month of football in his 8 year NFL career. It was a well timed month, but even a QB starved franchise like ours shouldn't want another Joe Flacco.

[painekiller]

23: R1p23 wr corey coleman baylor
60: R2p29 te hunter henry arkansas
85: R3p22 rb alex collins arkansas
120: R4p21 c max tuerk southern california
122: R4p23 dt matt ioannidis temple
128: R4p29 te tyler higbee western kentucky
153: R5p13 s jayron kearse clemson
160: R5p20 qb cardale jones ohio state
196: R6p20 g denver kirkland arkansas
197: R6p21 rb aaron green tcu


trade partner: New orleans saints sent:
Round: 7 pick: 22
round: 5 pick: 27
texans received:
Round: 5 pick: 13

trade partner: New england patriots sent:
Round: 2 pick: 21
texans received:
Round: 2 pick: 29
round: 4 pick: 29
round: 6 pick: 21
round: 7 pick: 22

trade partner: Minnesota vikings sent:
Round: 1 pick: 22
texans received:
Round: 1 pick: 23
round: 4 pick: 23

[HPF Bob]

I'd be happy with this. IMO, there's no "got to" player out there at #22 unless we just get lucky so a trade down for multiple picks in rounds 2-5 is the way to maximize this draft.