Texans Interested in QB Brock Osweiler [UPDATE: Reached Agreement]

[chuck]

If I try hard enough I can find a way to defend this. He's not a rookie and at the very least you know he can play some. A couple of the rookies coming out this year will probably be very good in a few years and a couple will flame out entirely. The Texans minimize the risk of a total flameout in exchange for giving the guy veteran money. I might not have done things this way but as I said I can find a way to defend it.

Also, it gives the team the freedom to go BPA at every point in the draft. And since it looks like they're going to come away with Miller, too, they have tons of options.

[Keith]

The Texans have a championship defense NOW. So I think Osweiler is totally defendable as a signing vs. put all your eggs in what might be the 3rd or 4th QB drafted if the Texans sit at #22 overall.

This is a move that recognizes the Texans are not willing to waste any more of J.J. Watt's career with the Hoyer's, Fitzy Cent's, and Mallett's of the league.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Keith

The Texans have a championship defense NOW. So I think Osweiler is totally defendable as a signing vs. put all your eggs in what might be the 3rd or 4th QB drafted if the Texans sit at #22 overall.

Those are also my thoughts because of courses there's unknowns and uncertainty with Osweiler but not nearly as much as with the best QB we could have got in this years Draft.
They just announced that Brooks signed for 40m over 5 years with Philly.
No doubt that the OLine is now the top priority in the Draft.

[HPF Bob]

Denver media reporting Osweiler deal is 4-yr, $72 million with $37 million guaranteed. Broncos would not go higher then $16mil/yr with $30 million guaranteed.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by chuck

If I try hard enough I can find a way to defend this. He's not a rookie and at the very least you know he can play some. A couple of the rookies coming out this year will probably be very good in a few years and a couple will flame out entirely. The Texans minimize the risk of a total flameout in exchange for giving the guy veteran money. I might not have done things this way but as I said I can find a way to defend it.

Welp. Shows what I know. We'd already seen that he was so historically bad as a Texan that they sold the farm to get Cleveland to take him out of the building. And apparently he is so terrible that the team with arguably the worst quarterback situation in the history of the modern NFL over the last 25 years can't use him.

Let that sink in for a minute. McNeck and Ricky pooled their collective intellectual prowess and gave $37 million dollars to a guy that not only can't win the Browns starting job, he can't even make the fking team. Unreal.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

Welp. Shows what I know. We'd already seen that he was so historically bad as a Texan that they sold the farm to get Cleveland to take him out of the building. And apparently he is so terrible that the team with arguably the worst quarterback situation in the history of the modern NFL over the last 25 years can't use him.

Let that sink in for a minute. McNeck and Ricky pooled their collective intellectual prowess and gave $37 million dollars to a guy that not only can't win the Browns starting job, he can't even make the fking team. Unreal.

He must have a terrible attitude. If he was a tiny bit professional he'd be the backup.

[Arky]

He kinda reminds me of Eddie Haskell from the old Leave it to Beaver show.

He should never have to work a day for the rest of his life if he invests his money wisely.....

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

He must have a terrible attitude. If he was a tiny bit professional he'd be the backup.

I'm sure you've read everything I've read on him. What I've concluded is that his confidence is shot (I initially mistyped that with an i which basically amounts to the same thing) and that once he decided that he couldn't read defenses he was just about done.

It makes me wonder. I had lots of problems with Kubiak, but as Pickett's signature attests, I obviously think had a way with quarterbacks. BOB, the supposed quarterback guru, well, let's just say the jury's still out on that one. I'm pretty sure if you put me in a room with Brady for half an hour I'd walk out of there a mfing quarterback guru, too.

From what I've gathered Brock was soft and he lost his confidence. I suppose that can happen to a guy. But, I don't know, that sort of sounds like a 6th round flyer more than a $40 million dollar man.

Anyhoo, the Texans are all set now with a guy who can't stay healthy and a guy who can't hit a target. I will say that from what I've seen Watson's arm strength does not seem to be an issue. He has plenty of arm strength to throw it right the fk over any receiver who happens to be running around in the defensive secondary. So we can dispose of that particular issue.

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[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

I'm sure you've read everything I've read on him. What I've concluded is that his confidence is shot (I initially mistyped that with an i which basically amounts to the same thing) and that once he decided that he couldn't read defenses he was just about done.

It makes me wonder. I had lots of problems with Kubiak, but as Pickett's signature attests, I obviously think had a way with quarterbacks. BOB, the supposed quarterback guru, well, let's just say the jury's still out on that one. I'm pretty sure if you put me in a room with Brady for half an hour I'd walk out of there a mfing quarterback guru, too.

From what I've gathered Brock was soft and he lost his confidence. I suppose that can happen to a guy. But, I don't know, that sort of sounds like a 6th round flyer more than a $40 million dollar man.

Anyhoo, the Texans are all set now with a guy who can't stay healthy and a guy who can't hit a target. I will say that from what I've seen Watson's arm strength does not seem to be an issue. He has plenty of arm strength to throw it right the fk over any receiver who happens to be running around in the defensive secondary. So we can dispose of that particular issue.

You gentlemen will have to excuse me. I'm about to
climb into my helicopter and embark on a journey to my
valley finca for a quick cheese tasting. I have some fresh pressed olive
oil and some young white to evaluate, also. I'm sure you
understand, you're all men of the world, especially nunu.

I saw an article yesterday that half of the NFL's starting QBs will be over 30.
And even crazier, 11 of the top 15 passers from 2011 will be starting opening day. That's why Stafford, Carr, and Luck are so rich. There are no young guys who can play QB right now.

So it's scary to draft a young guy when it might mean you are tying your franchise to 3 years of awful QB play that you can't give up on because you spent a 1st round pick (Blake Bortles). So instead of taking the plunge at QB in the draft, we tried a shortcut and threw piles of money at a guy who couldn't play on his previous team but won some games due to an awesome defense. Of course we only tried that after 2 years of pretend QBs.

So we are now 4 years away from Kubiak and Schaub, and we are just now dipping our toes in with a brand new rookie QB. The good news is that by 2020 we should know if we need another QB or not.

[chuck]

Brock actually looked like a guy who could play in Denver. Small sample size, sure. But he looked like an NFL quarterback. Buford'll tell you.

I guess what I'm saying is that Kubiak has my eternal respect because he licks his palms and magically turns a guy who can't play for the worst team in the history of the sport into a reasonable facsimile of an NFL player.

I like Matthew Stafford fine. I think he's pretty good. But that contract? Man. It's crazy what you have to pay for pretty good.

[HPF Bob]

You scared me. I saw the headline and thought "Ozzie is back???"

particularly coupled with the news that they'd cut Weeden.

Oh, well. I'm busy watching the Twerps demolish the Longhorns. The Curse of the Longhorn Network continues...