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Old 02-24-2016, 07:18 PM
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#22 QB Carson Wentz
#52 TE Hunter Henry
#85 WR Tyler Boyd
#120 G Christian Wwsterman
#159 RB CJ Prosise
#166 CB Harlan Miller
#198 OLB James Crowser

#22 WR Laquon Treadwell
#52 QB Paxton Lynch
#85 Tyler Boyd
#120 RB Kenyan Drake
#159 DE Matt Ioannidis
#166 ILB Blake Martinez
#198 TE David Morgan II
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I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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Old 02-25-2016, 09:05 PM
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Cause I just watched Hackenberg's media time. Seems like a good kid, talks the BOB talk. I used Walter's List.

33: R2P2 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
52: R2P21 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
93: R3P30 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
101: R4P2 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS
120: R4P21 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
129: R4P30 WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON MISSISSIPPI STATE
140: R5P1 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
159: R5P20 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
166: R5P27 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE
198: R6P20 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU


ARIZONA CARDINALS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 (DT SHELDON RANKINS )

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 sent to TITANS
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 (RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS)
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30 (WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON)

TRADE PARTNER:
TENNESSEE TITANS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 (CB VERNON HARGREAVES)

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 2 (TE HUNTER HENRY)
ROUND: 4 PICK: 2 (DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY)
ROUND: 5 PICK: 1 (TE TYLER HIGBEE)

2 trade downs to capture 5 extra picks.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:42 PM
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Default 2/27 Fanspeak w/NFLMock w/trades

It appears Fanspeak will allow you, as the Texans, to send our 1st, 2nd and our first 5th-rounder to Philadelphia for their 1st (13th overall) anytime you want to do it. I tried some other variations of the deal and it always refuses.

The strategy, at this point, has three prongs:

1. Trade up to #13 and hope Goff or Wentz falls to you. I've been able to make this work about 60% of the time. If it doesn't work, then you have to decide whether to trade back down or grab someone else that unexpectedly fell.

2. Stay put at #22 and take Lynch or Cook if they are available.

3. Take another player at #22 or trade down but ultimately, aim for the next group of Prescott and Hackenberg.

I prefer the idea of getting the best QB we can afford without giving up a future #1. Losing your second-rounder hurts but if the reward is Goff or Wentz, it is a good deal. Later, I traded out of the 4th round to San Francisco for an early 5th and a late 6th to give us 6 overall choices.

13: R1P13 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA ST
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
142: R5P3 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
166: R5P27 OT-OG DENVER KIRKLAND ARKANSAS
198: R6P20 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
210: R6P32 K ROBERT AGUAYO FLORIDA ST

Williams is a value pick in the 5th. He was projected a third rounder who was out all last season with a foot injury but appeared at the Senior Bowl. I like backs who didn't get run to death in college and are undervalued because of it.

Kirkland is a massive man with experience at G and OT who can fill in at any of 4 positions along the line but needs refinement.

Norris is a 3-4 ILB who makes up for being a step slow with a quick first step and great ball-hunting instincts. How much longer will we have Cushing? McKinney fills one spot but we need someone else to challenge here.
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Old 02-27-2016, 04:27 PM
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I can see why we want to be aggressive about trading up for a Franchise QB. However, the only guy ready to step in and take over the team on day one is Goff, in my opinion. I like Wentz's upside, but would be scared to trade ao much to get him.
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Old 02-27-2016, 07:41 PM
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After watching Wentz's footwork today, I will have to say that I am impressed. He has made progress since Mobile. So, after 2nd thought, I would be ok with trading up to 13 for him. I wouldn't do that deal for Lynch though. After watching Wentz today, I doubt he drops to #13 so perhaps it is a moot point. :/
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Old 02-27-2016, 09:38 PM
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DraftTek list

14: R1P14 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA ST
52: R2P21 WR WILLIAM FULLER NOTRE DAME
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO ST
159: R5P20 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
166: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
198: R6P20 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI

Swapped 1st round picks with Oakland and gave them 1st round pick from 2017, to get up and grab Wentz. Everything else was letting the draft come to me.
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Old 02-27-2016, 10:10 PM
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14: R1P14 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA ST
52: R2P21 WR WILLIAM FULLER NOTRE DAME
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO ST
159: R5P20 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
166: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
198: R6P20 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI

Swapped 1st round picks with Oakland and gave them 1st round pick from 2017, to get up and grab Wentz. Everything else was letting the draft come to me.
Love the picks. I don't see Vannett lasting that long, but you never know. Interested in which RBs were available at #85. Getting both Razorbacks is a nice touch. McGovern impressed me at the Combine.
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