Let's Talk 2016 Texans Draft

[HPF Bob]

Unless we really like Cook and Wentz, I would not force a first-round pick on them. Once you do, they are expected to play right away. If we have a chance to get a better QB in free agency, that might be the way to go - no specific name in mind but I'd want to see who's on the market.

I wonder if there are still a bunch of Aggies screaming for the Texans to get Johnny Manziel as they were doing two years ago? At least Clowney still has a future - for now.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Unless we really like Cook and Wentz, I would not force a first-round pick on them. Once you do, they are expected to play right away. If we have a chance to get a better QB in free agency, that might be the way to go - no specific name in mind but I'd want to see who's on the market.

I wonder if there are still a bunch of Aggies screaming for the Texans to get Johnny Manziel as they were doing two years ago? At least Clowney still has a future - for now.

I would hate to force a rookie onto the field. That might mean not playing Hoyer.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

If we have a chance to get a better QB in free agency, that might be the way to go.

2016 FA QBs:
Kirk Cousins (Not going anywhere)
Ryan Fitzpatrick (Yay, a Texans retread!!)
Sam Bradford (Probably not going anywhere)
Brock Osweiler (Maybe, but I doubt DEN lets him go)
Chase Daniel (Might take a look at him as a bridge QB)
Matt Moore (No thanks)
Tarvaris Jackson (No thanks)
Chad Henne (No thanks)
Matt Schaub (No thanks)
Brandon Weeden (No thanks)
Jimmy Clausen (No thanks)
Colt McCoy (Might take a look at him as a bridge QB)
Matt Hasselbeck (No thanks)
Drew Stanton (No thanks)
Dan Orlovsky (No thanks! Amazing how many ex-Texans are on this list, eh?)
Bruce Gradkowski (No thanks)
Charlie Whitehurst (No thanks)
T.J. Yates (Probably deserves to be re-signed just because)
Matt Cassel (No thanks)
Luke McCown (No thanks)
Scott Tolzien (No thanks)
Michael Vick (No thanks)
Matt Flynn (No thanks)
Kellen Clemens (No thanks)
Josh Freeman (No thanks)

Pretty shabby list, I'd say. My assumption is there will be others scrubs like, Geno, Tyler Bray, Brian Hoyer, Matt Barkley, Logan Thomas, etc, etc, etc... As for veterans, who knows, maybe PManning, RG3, JFF, Butt Fumble become available, but they don't inspire me and would probably just get in the way of moving forward with a rookie. I think I'd rather go Yates, Savage, maybe take a look someone like Daniels/McCoy over Yates, and go rookie. This division is bad enough to where you might be able to get by starting a rookie as long he's not a turnover machine.

[Nconroe]

Weeden did OK this year with cowgirls and Texans. Why are you not taking a closer look.

There are a few teams with two qb , you could perhaps trade for one. Like maybe McGarron or RG3?

For now I'd stand pat and see how things go develop.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by popanot

I think I'd rather go Yates, Savage, maybe take a look someone like Daniels/McCoy over Yates, and go rookie. This division is bad enough to where you might be able to get by starting a rookie as long he's not a turnover machine.

I would prefer Weeden over Yates, for 2 reasons, one he is a better arm talent than TJ, and two, TJ will not be able able to practice until late training camp or later. TJ had knee surgery.

Give me Weeden, Savage and a rookie and I will be happy. Let Hoyer go, please!!

[HPF Bob]

First, thanks for the list. I was impressed with Hasselbeck considering the bad cast he played around and the beating he was taking. He might be the perfect guy to mentor Mr. High Draft Choice we get in the first or second. I still have warm fuzzies about RG3 if he passes the physical and I don't doubt the Redskins will release him sometime this spring so we won't be paying that monster contract. Sign him to an incentive-heavy contract and feed him more of Mama's Campbell Soup and Subway sandwiches.

Anyway, I'm not married to any particular strategy. The door is wide open.

[barrett]

I only sign Yates if the Bengals are on the schedule.

I see no reason to go with Weeden.

Savage should be on the roster entering training camp.

Brian Hoyer better not even see the practice field for us next year.

I'd bring back Fitzpatrick over every QB on that list.

I wouldn't want to touch a guy like RG3 because he is young enough and high ceiling enough to confuse long term plans. After 2 years with no attempt at a QB solution it is not time for a reclamation project. Not to mention the best case scenario is he wins the job and plays a dozen games a year due to injury.

Savage and a rookie from the first 2 rounds of the draft with a 3rd guy who has familiarity with our offense.

[popanot]

I only say sign Yates because he deserves to be here for camp at least since he blew out a knee for us (sentimental, I know). I'd never want to go a full season with him or any of the FA's on that list for that matter. I'd be OK giving RG3 a shot if there is absolutely no other option. I agree with barrett that him or any other young FA (Geno, etc.) would just get in the way of a rookie/long-term plan.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by popanot

I only say sign Yates because he deserves to be here for camp at least since he blew out a knee for us (sentimental, I know). I'd never want to go a full season with him or any of the FA's on that list for that matter. I'd be OK giving RG3 a shot if there is absolutely no other option. I agree with barrett that him or any other young FA (Geno, etc.) would just get in the way of a rookie/long-term plan.

The online gambling company Bovada set odds for Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III’s impending free agency on Wednesday, picking the Houston Texans as the most likely destination for the former No. 2 pick.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/13/rob...ee-agency-odds
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FWIW here's one book that says best odds for RG3's next team is the Texans.
Intriguing to say the least. The guy can throw the ball a mile, so O'brien would like that part of his game.

[popanot]

If RG3 can get his ego in check and put in the work to learn and improve, I would not be opposed to giving him a shot. However, if we draft a young QB high, I don't think signing RG3 would be a good move.

[Nconroe]

Originally Posted by popanot

If RG3 can get his ego in check and put in the work to learn and improve, I would not be opposed to giving him a shot. However, if we draft a young QB high, I don't think signing RG3 would be a good move.

Agree, I would think RG3 was a long shot to reach Texans, but who knows. I liked him a lot when he came out of Baylor.

[popanot]

The hype machine is in full swing for the guy I wanted (Wentz). Some say he might be the 1rst QB off the board now. The one guy now who I think will there when we draft is Cook.

Tony Pauline ‏@TonyPauline · 11h11 hours ago
Word here at the Senior Bowl; MSU teammates have been less than effusive in their praise of quaterback Connor Cook.

Options might be take a chance on Cook and hope like hell he isn't a complete prima donna idiot or take a pass in RD1 and hope Hack (or somebody!) is there in RD2. Ugh...

EDIT: Pauline later added this tweet...

Tony Pauline ‏@TonyPauline · 7m7 minutes ago
Effusive: marked by the expression of great or excessive emotion or enthusiasm <effusive praise>

And I was being kind.

[popanot]

John Harris - 30 Senior Bowl players to watch for Texans fans:

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...0-5410c32db059

[Roy P]

I'm in agreement with most of what I have read here. If I became the GM for the Texans and wanted to hire some advisors, I would have to take a serious look at some of the people who post here. From my perspective, the 2 QBs who I would move up to #10 to draft are Goff or Wentz. However, it seems plausible that neither will be available. Lynch reminds me of the guy we have on the roster already, Savage. Cook is a hothead that likes himself too much. Not sure why he didn't want to play in Mobile, but he comes off as the kind of kid to be the next Ryan Leaf. So, the guy I want to draft is Dak Prescott. The question becomes when do I pull the trigger. At #22, I want the biggest impact player at a position of need. That points me to TE Hunter Henry. This Offense needs a TE in the mold of Rob Gronkowski, and since that is nearly impossible to find, you get the closest facsimile. In the 2nd round, I take a good hard look at RB Kenneth Dixon and hope Prescott is still available when I pick in the 3rd round. I'm not comparing Dixon to LT or Marshall Faulk, but to me he is a Matt Forte clone. You could have your every-down RB, or wait and select a 3rd down back like Kenyan Drake (who improves the Special Teams) or Aaron Green and then sign a UDFA like Auburn RB Peyton Barber or USC RB Tre Madden to be the short-yardage guy. I'm pleased with the development of Jaelen Strong, but wouldn't be opposed to adding another WR like Mich St Aaron Burbridge or SE Missouri St Paul McRoberts. Depending on what is available, I might draft 2 QBs if Jacoby Brisset of NC St was still there in the 6th round just to stash on the Practice Squad.

The QB position must be addressed. Hoyer must go and Savage must stay. If I don't trade up for Goff/Wentz, I inquire about the packages needed to trade for Jimmy Garoppolo of the Patriots or Ryan Nassib of the Giants. If those prices are too high, I sign Drew Stanton. He is serviceable and is the bridge until Prescott is ready and insurance if Savage is not.