Official Texans @ Jaguars Game Thread, 10/18/2015

[popanot]

Quite a few pundits I follow the Twit say Clowney is actually playing pretty well and showing flashes of becoming a dominant player, although, it hasn't shown up in the sack column yet. With that being said, you still have to be consistently on the field and Clowney certainly hasn't done that yet. Bad thing is, we're quickly getting to that timeframe where you need to know what you have before that contract option kicks in.

On another note: JJ is now Questionable for the game due to illness.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by popanot

Quite a few pundits I follow the Twit say Clowney is actually playing pretty well and showing flashes of becoming a dominant player, although, it hasn't shown up in the sack column yet. With that being said, you still have to be consistently on the field and Clowney certainly hasn't done that yet. Bad thing is, we're quickly getting to that timeframe where you need to know what you have before that contract option kicks in.
On another note: JJ is now Questionable for the game due to illness.

Isn't there 2 years to go after this season before his rookie contract is up ?

[Arky]

Lots of late action on the Jags. Jags now favored by 2 to 3 - not a good sign.....

Gametime in about 12 minutes....

Supposed to be very windy in Jacksonville....

[Warren]

Inactives:

Texans: LB Jadeveon Clowney, S Quintin Demps, WR Nate Washington, LB Brian Peters, G Greg Mancz, G Xavier Su’a-Filo, DL Jeoffrey Pagan

Jaguars: WR Marqise Lee, RB Bernard Pierce, S James Sample, RB TJ Yeldon, CB Nick Marshall, G Tyler Shatley, DE Chris Smith

[Arky]

Opening kickoff is downed in the end zone, touchback.

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Texan's ball at their 20.

Foster for 4.

Hoyer's pass to Shorts goes for nice gainer, ball at the Jag 46.

Foster gets caught for -2.

Pass to Hop down the sideline is broken up, inc. Brings up 3rd and 12.

Timeout Texans (#1).

Pass to Hop off the mark, inc. Texans to punt.

Lechler's punt is fair caught by the Jags.

[Arky]

Jags ball at their 11.

Pass to Robinson goes for 24 down the sideline.

Gerhart for 4.

Robinson gets about 3. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Pass to Thomas gets 2...... Jags going for it on 4th and 1.....

Bortles pass is tipped and INT'ed by KJ but holding on KJ gives the Jags 5 yards and a 1st down.

Pass to Thomas too hot to handle, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Grant for 1.

On 3rd and 9, Bortles pass is broken up by JJo, inc. Jags will have to punt.

Punt is downed at the Texan 1 or 2 yard line.

[Arky]

Texan's ball at their 1.

Pass to Shorts gets 10 or 11.

Foster nice run for about 16.

Foster for 3 but flag down.....holding on Brooks makes it 1st and 20.

Pass to Fido goes for 8.

Foster for about 3 but another flag is down....unnecessary roughness on the Jags, +15. Ball at the Texan 43.

Hoyer pressured, throws it away, inc but flag is down... holding on Newton backs it up 10. Makes it 1st and 20.

Polk gets 5.

Dumpoff to Polk only gets 2. Brings up 3rd and 13.

Umph, dumpoff to Foster gets about 12..... Texans going for it on 4th down....

Pass to Hop goes to the Jag 40 and the 1st down.

Polk for 4.

Foster runs for about 7 or 8 and the 1st down. Ball at the Jag 28.

Hoyer can't find a receiver and throws it over Fido out of bounds, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Hop goes for 9.

Foster for 2 and a 1st down.

Polk for 2 or 3.

Hoyer's pass is knocked down, inc. Brings up 3rd and 7.

Texans use another timeout (#2).

Pass over the middle to Foster goes for the TD! 14 yards.

Texans 7, Jags 0

1:36 left in the 1st qtr.

[Arky]

Jags bring the ensuing kickoff back to their 25.

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Jag's ball at their 25.

Bortles' pass is off the hands of Thomas, inc.

Pass to Robinson good for 21.

Robinson goes for 2.

Pass to Thomas goes to the Texan 38.

End of the 1st qtr.

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Bortles is sacked by Mercilus for loss of 7.

Dump off to Gerhart goes for 7. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Robinson inc but off sides on Watt makes it 3rd and 5.

Dump off to Gerhart gets the 1st down at the Texan 25.

Quick hitter to Robinson gets 8.

Gerhart gets 2 and the 1st down at the Texan 15.

Bortles under pressure gets off the pass but inc. 2nd and 10 coming up. KJ injured and limps off the field.

Gerhart for about 3.

Pass to Walters goes for 8 and tack on a facemask on KJ2 puts the ball a the Texan 4.

Gerhart for 2. 2nd and goal at the 2.

Pass to Robinson goes for the TD.

Texans 7, Jags 7

9:41 left in the half.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Isn't there 2 years to go after this season before his rookie contract is up ?

Yes. And if the next 2 years go like the first 2, where will we be as far as extending? If it's that bad the answer would be not to extend, but I'd prefer to see some good progress from here on so we know for sure if we have a player or not.

[Arky]

Early line has the Dolphins as a 4.5 to 5 pt favorite next week....

[nunusguy]

Yesterdays OLine started with Duane Brown @ LT and Ben Jones @ center, so that's no change, but here's where it gets interesting - Newt moved from RT to RG and new guy FA Chris Clark replaced Newt @ RT, regular RG Brandon Brooks started @ LG where they've been playing newly acquired FA Obay Aboushi. So looks like that was all about plugging somebody in at LG and don't know what happened to Aboushi ? I'm wondering if 2nd round pick in 2014 LG Xavior Sui-Ofila is ever gonna get on the field again this year ?
Oline only gave up 1 sack and the teams rushed for 95 yards yesterday, so it was a so-so day for the Oline stat-wise.

[WMH]

If we could get that kind of output from Hoyer each week, we might actually be competitive.

But, if Hoyer was able to produce that kind of output each week, this might not be his 8th team in 6 years.......

Maybe some where in the middle?

Definitely didn't see anything from Bortles to make we desire a swap for him a Clowney. He made some really stupid decisions, and likely cost his team a W. We have enough of that here already.

Good to see Foster with a little step here and there. He has a knack for finding space where there isn't any.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by WMH

Definitely didn't see anything from Bortles to make we desire a swap for him a Clowney. He made some really stupid decisions, and likely cost his team a W. We have enough of that here already.

Bortles looked like a turd, but don't underestimate how crappy his tutelage has been in Jacksonville. Could be homerism, but I think O'Brien has better success with Bortles. Who was the last young QB the Jags ever matriculated? And do the Jags have any running game whatsoever, much less someone as talented as Arian Foster to help?

The Jags are in year 2 of developing their rookie QB, and they'll be in year 3 when the Texans will likely be starting over in 2016. And that extra time makes a difference... Bortles TD-INT ratio has flipped since his rookie year, from 11:17 to 13:7 after yesterday.

And I'll just leave this here:

Games played
Clowney - 9
Bortles - 20

Point isn't about Bortles specifically. The point is the Texans completely ignored the QB position when taking Clowney in the 2014 draft when they should have taken their favorite QB before the 4th round. Bortles is imperfect. His passing accuracy seems to be his biggest failing. But yeah, I'd rather have Year 2 Bortles than Year 2 Clowney.