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Old 04-17-2015, 09:05 PM
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If I'm the GM, I'm going to operate (under the illusion?) that the Texan defense is going to be OK. If you'll recall, they were really coming on at the end of last season. Added Moore and Wilfork..... But, I would still like to see a possible starting LB drafted within the 1st two rounds.

OTOH, the offense was downright inept at times last year. So, IMO, the offense needs lots of help. Is it possible to get the offense a couple of starters in the 1st three rounds? WR, TE, RB, C/G are probably the positions to go after....

So, in short, I'd like to see the Texans go heavy on offense in the draft but wouldn't mind seeing a good LB in the first two rounds...
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Old 04-17-2015, 09:52 PM
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The team needs an OLB in the worst way. I'll be very surprised if they don't go in that direction first.
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:25 AM
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Is it possible to get the offense a couple of starters in the 1st three rounds? WR, TE, RB, C/G are probably the positions to go after....

So, in short, I'd like to see the Texans go heavy on offense in the draft but wouldn't mind seeing a good LB in the first two rounds...

OL Cameron Erving
WR Devin Smith
TE Clive Walford
OLB Anthony Chickillo
ILB Jake Ryan
RB Cameron Artis-Payne
WR Justin Hardy
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Old 04-18-2015, 01:12 PM
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I'd love to see them upgrade at RT and CB but the front office decided to hand big contracts to the incumbents instead of letting them leave. Meanwhile, they jettisoned the best receiver in franchise history (probably a good decision despite him signing with Indy).

IMO, we need to replace AJ with a top WR, preferably Jaelen Strong if Cooper and White are gone as expected. The second guy on my must-get list is OLB Lorenzo Mauldin who would fit perfectly in a 3-4 since he has experience both as DE and OLB.

If we came away with those two, I'd feel the draft was a success. There are other holes to fill but those two could be critical.

I'd love to add help at KR, NT, ILB, C, S but those can come from later rounds.
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Old 04-18-2015, 06:10 PM
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Bob, what do you think about best available OLB in the first and this WR in the second.

https://youtu.be/dVBfdOafAVs
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Old 04-19-2015, 10:04 AM
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I could see it happening but I am optimistic that Clowney and Mercilus will hold down the OLB spots and whomever we get will be backups, not starters whereas a first-round WR ought to be starting by mid-season as we need to get rid of the guys we were using for depth at that position last year with the possible exception of Posey if he's healthy both physically and mentally.

The Texans don't strike me as a team that will bite on Gregory or Green-Beckham if they are available but I can see them choosing Shane Ray or Bud Dupree over Parker or Strong if they are available.

My issue is that I want the physical presence of the top 4 receivers (and Dorial G-B is also a physical presence to be honest) - somebody who can win jump balls in a crowd and most of the guys listed at WR in the second (Smith, Perriman, Dorsett) are there because of speed, not physical toughness. Sammie Coates would be my choice of the second-rounders. The wild card is Devin Funchess who some project moving to Tight End and becoming a Jimmy Graham type.
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Old 04-19-2015, 10:31 AM
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Default 04-19 Fanspeak Board No Trades

I enjoy moving around a bit on the draft board so I can have more picks in the second day where the best bargains should be. But that's not true to Houston's track record so I disciplined myself to decline all the trades and just do a straight draft with our current picks. It meant missing out on some guys I wanted but I was able to get several guys I targeted including some of O'Brien's alumni.


16 - R1P16 WR JAELEN STRONG ARIZONA STATE
He's still there sometimes in trade downs but sometimes he's gone. Taller and faster than Devante Parker, he should be a great mirror for Hopkins.

51 - R2P19 ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY CLEMSON
Solid all-around LB who can finally stop the parade of flotsam lining up next to Brian Cushing.

82 - R3P18 TE JESSE JAMES PENN STATE
I wanted this to be Lorenzo Mauldin but he was taken. I'll settle for a huge 6-7 receiver who O'Brien knows well and makes a great end zone target.

116 - R4P17 OLB KWON ALEXANDER LSU
I could have nabbed a safety here but after missing out on Mauldin, I didn't want to miss on the next best OLB on the board.

152 - R5P16 G-C MILES DIEFFENBACH PENN STATE
A little early for this guy but he fills two back-up needs and O'Brien loves his toughness returning from knee surgery.

175 (comp) - R5P39 WR TY MONTGOMERY STANFORD
Now's the spot for a speed receiver with kick return skills and that's Montgomery or Antwan Goodley. I'd be happy with either.

195 - R6P19 CB DAMIAN SWANN GEORGIA
We can always use depth at corner.

211 (comp) - R6P35 S CHRIS HACKETT TCU
Ditto safeties. If I had more mid-round choices, I would target FS Adrian Amos of Penn State rather than Hackett.

216 (comp) - R6P40 DE DEION BARNES PENN STATE
Another Nittany Lion that is a classic tweener who could become an OLB at the next level.

235 - R7P18 RB MALCOLM BROWN TEXAS
A solid backup behind Foster and Blue. Doesn't make people miss but he's a dependable runner and receiver who can fight for tough yards.

What's missing in this draft? Help on the d-line, no true center to back up Jones, no development QB (not sure one is desired). Hopefully, Ryan Pickett is still in Romeo's contacts list. Otherwise, I'd be happy to come away with this.
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Old 04-19-2015, 10:57 AM
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NFL teams including the Texans run so much in nickel defensive schemes these days that a team practically has not just 2 but 3 starting corners and with Joseph coming into the last year of his current contract in 2015 I can see a real possibilty that The Texans go corner with their first pick especially if the edge-rushers and WRs they really like are off of their Board @ 16. And it' a deep draft for WRs,
better values may be in later rounds for teams this year.
Of course to really make an informed call on the Texans pick it all boils down to what the 15 teams drafting ahead of them Texans do, otherwise no way of knowing their options.
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Old 04-19-2015, 07:00 PM
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Bob, what do you think about best available OLB in the first and this WR in the second.

https://youtu.be/dVBfdOafAVs
Funches reminds me of a guy from the 2005 draft, USC Mike Williams and the Lions took him in the first round. I believe that Williams was a little faster.
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Old 04-20-2015, 11:21 AM
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Here's mine using Fanspeak with no trades. I'm sure most won't like it (esp the Gurley pick), but I do. I feel I'd end up with at least 6 future starters with the potential for more with the late RD guys:

16: RB - TODD GURLEY
Yep, I went there. Foster most likely has 1yr left here, which could give Gurley some more time to fully heal if need be. I can hear it now... RB is the least of our needs, and we could probably find a guy in the later rounds... Those might be valid arguments, but if I'm GM, I'm not passing up on a guy I feel has AP type talent. Blue is a nice backup.

51: CB - BYRON JONES
Insane athlete that will either play CB of FS on my team.

83: WR - PHILLIP DORSETT
Speedster, slot guy, KR/PR, take the top off the D, it's all taken care of here.

116: TE - JESSE JAMES
My redzone/endzone go-to guy. Let JJ take a breather and focus on D. Do it before something stupid happens lining him up on O!!

152: WR - DEANDRE SMELTER
Got my burner. Now I get my big-body possession/zone-eating/blocking crusher. He will make losing AJ not as difficult to bear (at least until he reams us up the you-know-what in a Colts uniform for the next year or two).

175: C - MAX GARCIA
Anyone else confident in Jones at C? Not, I. This guy supposedly is a high motor guy. A team captain that players, coaches, fans all love. Oh, and he loves to workout. Sounds good to me...

195: DE - FRANK CLARK
Yep, I went there. I know he's a HUGE risk, but he also has HIGH potential and this a 6th RD pick so I'm willing to gamble with it. The Seahawks weren't made with choirboys.

211: DT- LETERRIUS WALTON
Big man, with big potential and has the motivation. The anti-Nix, if you will. I have no confidence at all that human slug Nix will ever see the field --- at least with the Texans...

216: ILB - BRYCE HAGER
High motor guy. I have to get some ST thumpers with potential at some point.

235: OLB - JAMES VAUGHTERS
See above. Might even be ILB worthy.

As you can see, no QB. I'm waiting until next year where it appears the QB talent pool will be much deeper. I'm going into 2015 with a hot mess at QB and hoping Mallett is way more than anyone ever expected. If not, I get a higher pick next year to grab my future QB to go with my future stud RB. This year, I use my late picks on potential and/or building my STs, depth and core.

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Old 04-20-2015, 01:24 PM
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Here's mine using Fanspeak with no trades. I'm sure most won't like it (esp the Gurley pick), but I do. I feel I'd end up with at least 6 future starters with the potential for more with the late RD guys:

16: RB - TODD GURLEY
Yep, I went there. Foster most likely has 1yr left here, which could give Gurley some more time to fully heal if need be. I can hear it now... RB is the least of our needs, and we could probably find a guy in the later rounds... Those might be valid arguments, but if I'm GM, I'm not passing up on a guy I feel has AP type talent. Blue is a nice backup.

51: CB - BYRON JONES
Insane athlete that will either play CB of FS on my team.

83: WR - PHILLIP DORSETT
Speedster, slot guy, KR/PR, take the top off the D, it's all taken care of here.

116: TE - JESSE JAMES
My redzone/endzone go-to guy. Let JJ take a breather and focus on D. Do it before something stupid happens lining him up on O!!

152: WR - DEANDRE SMELTER
Got my burner. Now I get my big-body possession/zone-eating/blocking crusher. He will make losing AJ not as difficult to bear (at least until he reams us up the you-know-what in a Colts uniform for the next year or two).

175: C - MAX GARCIA
Anyone else confident in Jones at C? Not, I. This guy supposedly is a high motor guy. A team captain that players, coaches, fans all love. Oh, and he loves to workout. Sounds good to me...

195: DE - FRANK CLARK
Yep, I went there. I know he's a HUGE risk, but he also has HIGH potential and this a 6th RD pick so I'm willing to gamble with it. The Seahawks weren't made with choirboys.

211: DT- LETERRIUS WALTON
Big man, with big potential and has the motivation. The anti-Nix, if you will. I have no confidence at all that human slug Nix will ever see the field --- at least with the Texans...

216: ILB - BRYCE HAGER
High motor guy. I have to get some ST thumpers with potential at some point.

235: OLB - JAMES VAUGHTERS
See above. Might even be ILB worthy.

As you can see, no QB. I'm waiting until next year where it appears the QB talent pool will be much deeper. I'm going into 2015 with a hot mess at QB and hoping Mallett is way more than anyone ever expected. If not, I get a higher pick next year to grab my future QB to go with my future stud RB. This year, I use my late picks on potential and/or building my STs, depth and core.
I went and did a similar draft :
#16 RB Melvin Gordon (WRs and OLBs were taken )
#51 WR Breshad Perriman
#82 DB Eric Rowe
#116 WR Tyler Lockett
#152 TE Mycole Pruitt (Fastest TE in the draft with college production )
#175 ILB Mike Hull (Penn State)
#195 OL Arie Kouandjio (People Mover)
#211 OL Mitch Morse (Swing Tackle)
#216 DL Derrick Lott
#235 OLB Alani Fua
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Old 04-20-2015, 11:22 AM
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Funches reminds me of a guy from the 2005 draft, USC Mike Williams and the Lions took him in the first round. I believe that Williams was a little faster.
Yea, I somewhat remember him.

Chickillo reminds me of Brooks Reed. Maybe a poor man's Reed.
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:49 PM
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Chickillo reminds me of Brooks Reed. Maybe a poor man's Reed.
I would be ecstatic with Brooks Reed with a Rookie salary. Or at least a guy who could make picking up Merciless's 5th year option, not a "need to do" scenario.
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