2015 Mocks

[Warren]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Regarding Waynes, what I read is he can run really fast and can break up passes. Ok, nice. What I didn't read was that he can tackle well or intercept passes. So, IMO, he reminds me of Aqib Talib who runs really fast and can shadow your top receiver but he gets hurt if you ask him to make a tackle and he rarely picks off passes. Is that what you want to spend a mid-round #1 on?

Now if he fell to the late first or early second, then, yeah, let's get him. In the 8-16 range, whoever gets him may feel disappointed. I still think he's the top corner in the draft but I'm not sure he merits where he's being ranked.

Here's a good article on Waynes' tackling: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ostly-imagined. Summary: Not a good tackler at all, but he is a top cover guy and he does make an effort at tackling. You can work on his tackling and he has coverage ability that you can't teach.

[HPF Bob]

Michigan State is one of the better tackling schools in the country. If he could be taught to tackle, I would think he'd have learned it by now. Some guys get Deion Fever where they don't want to stick their nose in the pile. I really respected Dunte Robinson's game before he was injured. He would pile drive guys to the ground. I think he enjoyed it.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Michigan State is one of the better tackling schools in the country. If he could be taught to tackle, I would think he'd have learned it by now. Some guys get Deion Fever where they don't want to stick their nose in the pile. I really respected Dunte Robinson's game before he was injured. He would pile drive guys to the ground. I think he enjoyed it.

Speaking of Michigan State. They have some ballers.....Kurtis Drummond, Jeremy Langford, Taiwan Jones, and this guy who might be one of the steals of the draft. Excellent Pro-Day numbers, he wasn't invited to the Combine.

OLB Marcus Rush Mich St 6'2" 247 4.69 6.75 4.24 34 24 9'9"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i3oitcKLxM

[HPF Bob]

I'm not sure that video helps him, Roy.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I'm not sure that video helps him, Roy.

I will admit that the guy narrating isn't the most eloquent speaker and it could have been better rehearsed beforehand, but there's plenty of good content that showed that Rush can play. Some key elements jumped out at me. I'm projecting him as an OLB, but he played DE at Michigan State.

6:00 into the video he beats Donovan Smith.
7:30 beats the RT.
9:11 demonstrates a spin move like Freeney.
10:02 beat Jessie James
16:30 taking on a pulling Guard
18:00 Double swim moves against a TE then the RB
19:50 beat RT
23:05 beat Tackle inside
24:50 demonstrated Rip move
25:30 pancakes the Center while splitting the C & RG on stunt.
This is a player who is not talked about even being drafted and I hadn't heard of until his Pro day. Could be a nice late round guy to get in case we don't draft Beasley or Chickillo and Clowney isn't 100%

[HPF Bob]

Sure, there's always roster depth and a few UDFAs. Bulloch can probably tell us all about him.

[Roy P]

If we drafted say, OLB Bud Dupree in the first, who would you rather have with the 2nd pick : WR Devin Smith or ILB Stephone Anthony? :

[painekiller]

Getting closer and I am thinking outside the box. The General is standing for the Texans taking OLB, which usually means we go somewhere else. Also BoB has been vocal for guys that are able to play multiple positions and are smart.
My Outside the box mock

16 Cameron Erving C Florida State rSr 6-5 313
51 *Devin Funchess WR Michigan Jr 6-4 232
82 Jaquiski Tartt SS Samford rSr 6-1 221
116 *Jesse James TE Penn State Jr 6-7 261
152 Taiwan Jones ILB Michigan State Sr 6-3 245
175 Malcolm Brown RB Texas Sr 5-11 224
195 Joey Mbu DT Houston Sr 6-3 313
211 *Deion Barnes OLB Penn State rJr 6-4 257
216 Quandre Diggs CB Texas Sr 5-9 196
235 Deshazor Everett CB Texas A&M Sr 5-11 188

Erving can play at OC or OT. Has also played defense. Funchess is a project with great height and speed. Has been a move TE and an outside WR. Tartt is a former basketball player who tracks the ball well, has the size to play up in the box in nickle. James has excellent size, and has played for BoB at Penn St. Jones is a 3-4 ILB who can thump.

I missed on OLB who could push to play today. Not my worse effort.

[Roy P]

Nice. I am also thinking outside the box. Devin Smith in the first and Stephone Anthony in the 2nd and Bryce Petty in the 3rd, then Anthony Chickillo in the 4th. Jesse James in the 5th.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

If we drafted say, OLB Bud Dupree in the first, who would you rather have with the 2nd pick : WR Devin Smith or ILB Stephone Anthony? :

Unlike Clowney & Mercilus, from what I've read Dupree would be able to play strong side over the TE and cover him in passing situations which makes him an obvious choice for us if OLB is our top priority, but I doubt he's still on the Board at #16.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Unlike Clowney & Mercilus, from what I've read Dupree would be able to play strong side over the TE and cover him in passing situations which makes him an obvious choice for us if OLB is our top priority, but I doubt he's still on the Board at #16.

The drafting of Dupree was the premise, the real question was who would you draft in the 2nd round, D. SMITH or S. ANTHONY?

[HPF Bob]

No question I'm drafting Anthony in that proposal because I don't think Devin Smith will be that great a player at the next level. Reminds me of Marquise Goodwin - terrific speed but that's all he has.

[HPF Bob]

1. Traded 1-16 to Carolina for 1-25, 2-25 and 4-25
2. Traded 4th, 5th and 6th to Green Bay for 3-30

25 - R1P25 WR KEVIN WHITE WEST VIRGINIA
51 - R2P19 CB ERIC ROWE UTAH
57 - R2P25 OLB LORENZO MAULDIN LOUISVILLE
82 - R3P18 C REESE DISMUKES AUBURN
94 - R3P30 TE JESSE JAMES PENN STATE
124 - R4P25 ILB TAIWAN JONES MICHIGAN STATE
175 - R5P39 DT DERRICK LOTT CHATTANOOGA
211 - R6P35 DE DEION BARNES PENN STATE
216 - R6P40 CB QUANDRE DIGGS TEXAS
235 - R7P18 WR ANTWAN GOODLEY BAYLOR

Yeah, no way White falls to 25 but - whatever.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

1. Traded 1-16 to Carolina for 1-25, 2-25 and 4-25
2. Traded 4th, 5th and 6th to Green Bay for 3-30

25 - R1P25 WR KEVIN WHITE WEST VIRGINIA
51 - R2P19 CB ERIC ROWE UTAH
57 - R2P25 OLB LORENZO MAULDIN LOUISVILLE
82 - R3P18 C REESE DISMUKES AUBURN
94 - R3P30 TE JESSE JAMES PENN STATE
124 - R4P25 ILB TAIWAN JONES MICHIGAN STATE
175 - R5P39 DT DERRICK LOTT CHATTANOOGA
211 - R6P35 DE DEION BARNES PENN STATE
216 - R6P40 CB QUANDRE DIGGS TEXAS
235 - R7P18 WR ANTWAN GOODLEY BAYLOR

Yeah, no way White falls to 25 but - whatever.

I did the Composite Board and came away with this :

#16 WR Kevin White (I did make sure it was the WR, not the CB)
#51 ILB Stephone Anthony
#82 RB Jay Ajayi (BPA)
#116 OLB Anthony Chickillo (I think he's a 2nd round talent) (Petty was drafted #111 by Cleveland)
152 WR Justin Hardy
#175 TE Blake Bell
#195 DT Derrick Lott
#211 FB Tyler Varga
#216 WR Ty Montgomery
#235 QB Shane Carden