2015 Mocks

HPF Bob · #1 04-12-2015, 11:50 PM

I thought I could do better and took the same arrangement through a second time, only a situation developed where I couldn't resist trading up which caused another trade back:

1) Traded 1-16 to PIT for 1-22 and 2-24
2) Traded 4th, 5th and 6th to GB for 3-30

Sitting at 22 this time were several players I liked but the best on the board was Vic Beasley, OLB, Clemson. As I started the second, I noticed Jaelen Strong was still on the board so I traded up to get him.

3) Traded 2-19 and 3-18 to WSH for 2-5. Now, I'm really happy. I got one of the best pass rushers in the draft as well as the WR I've wanted all along. I then used the 2-24 from Pittsburgh to take ILB Stephone Anthony of Clemson. We've got a real haymaker of a draft starting out but I had to give a third, so what do I do with one I still have from the Packers? An offer from the Patriots came up:

4) Traded 3-30 to NE for 3-32 and 7-2. With that selection, I took Tre Johnson, OG, Florida St. to shore up the interior line.

There was a big chasm then to the late 5th but I still had 5 picks and I like what I have with those.

22 - R1P22 (from PIT): OLB VIC BEASLEY, CLEMSON
37 - R2P5 (from WSH): WR JAELEN STRONG, ARIZONA STATE
56 - R2P24 (from PIT): ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY, CLEMSON
96 - R3P32 (from NE): G TRE' JACKSON, FLORIDA STATE
175 - R5P39 (comp): C B.J. FINNEY, KANSAS STATE
211 - R6P35 (comp): DT DERRICK LOTT, CHATTANOOGA
216 - R6P40 (comp): DE DEION BARNES, PENN STATE
219 - R7P2 (from NE): CB QUANDRE DIGGS, TEXAS
235 - R7P18: WR ANTWAN GOODLEY, BAYLOR

WMH · #2 04-13-2015, 10:02 AM

I'd be OK with Waynes in Rd. 1.

1. Buccaneers: QB Jameis Winston, Florida State.
2. Titans: DT Leonard Williams, USC.
3. Jaguars: LB Dante Fowler Jr., Florida.
4. Raiders: WR Amari Cooper, Alabama.
5. Washington: LB Vic Beasley, Clemson.
6. Jets: QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon.
7. Bears: WR Kevin White, West Virginia.
8. Falcons: OT La’El Collins, Louisiana State.
9. Giants: DT Malcom Brown, Texas.
10. Rams: WR DeVante Parker, Louisville.
11. Vikings: OT Brandon Scherff, Iowa.
12. Browns: S Landon Collins, Alabama.
13. Saints: LB Alvin “Bud” Dupree, Kentucky.
14. Dolphins: OT D.J. Humphries, Florida.
15. 49ers: DE Mario Edwards, Florida State.
16. Texans: CB Trae Waynes, Michigan State.
17. Chagers: RT Ereck Flowers, Miami.
18. Chiefs: CB Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest.
19. Browns: OL Cameron Erving, Florida State.
20. Eagles: DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska.
21. Bengals: OT Andrus Peat, Stanford.
22. Steelers: OT Donovan Smith, Penn State.
23. Lions: DT Danny Shelton, Washington.
24. Cardinals: RB Todd Gurley, Georgia.
25. Panthers: WR Jalen Strong, Arizona State.
26. Ravens: WR Breshad Perriman, Central Florida.
27. Cowboys: RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin.
28. Broncos: DT Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma.
29. Colts: LB Shane Ray, Missouri.
30. Packers: WR Nelson Agholor, USC.
31. Saints: WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma.
32. Patriots: CB Marcus Peters, Washington.

Roy P · #3 04-13-2015, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH

I'd be OK with Waynes in Rd. 1.

16. Texans: CB Trae Waynes, Michigan State.
17. Chagers: RT Ereck Flowers, Miami.
18. Chiefs: CB Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest.
19. Browns: OL Cameron Erving, Florida State.
20. Eagles: DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska.
21. Bengals: OT Andrus Peat, Stanford.
22. Steelers: OT Donovan Smith, Penn State.
23. Lions: DT Danny Shelton, Washington.
24. Cardinals: RB Todd Gurley, Georgia.
25. Panthers: WR Jalen Strong, Arizona State.
26. Ravens: WR Breshad Perriman, Central Florida.
27. Cowboys: RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin.
28. Broncos: DT Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma.
29. Colts: LB Shane Ray, Missouri.
30. Packers: WR Nelson Agholor, USC.
31. Saints: WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma.
32. Patriots: CB Marcus Peters, Washington.

I would have liked to have been able to trade down for extra picks and perhaps selected OLB Shane Ray or Eli Harold or even WR Strong or Perriman.

If they draft Waynes, I won't cry.

popanot · #4 04-14-2015, 09:16 AM

I'm steering way clear of Perriman in RD1. Reminds me too much of CPat or Justin Hunter - all hype. I'd rather go LB, OL, CB in RD1, and then hope Devin Smith, Nelson Agholor, Dorsett are there in RD2. Agholor will likely go higher, but Smith or Dorsett might be there.

HPF Bob · #5 04-14-2015, 10:41 AM

The knock on Perriman is he has world class speed but only marginal hands. Until somebody comes up with a 40-time for hands, the guys who can post really fast numbers at the combine are going to be overrated. Dorsett is another guy who is climbing because he clocked a 4.2.

If the "first four" are gone (Cooper, White, Parker and Strong), then I'd look for guys like Sammie Coates and Tyler Lockett. Those two have solid production and come up big in big games. Coates doesn't have top speed but he faced SEC defenders and produced big numbers.

Devin Smith, from what I read, is strictly a straight-line speed guy. If that's what I want, I can get Antwan Goodley much later.

HPF Bob · #6 04-14-2015, 10:47 AM

Regarding Waynes, what I read is he can run really fast and can break up passes. Ok, nice. What I didn't read was that he can tackle well or intercept passes. So, IMO, he reminds me of Aqib Talib who runs really fast and can shadow your top receiver but he gets hurt if you ask him to make a tackle and he rarely picks off passes. Is that what you want to spend a mid-round #1 on?

Now if he fell to the late first or early second, then, yeah, let's get him. In the 8-16 range, whoever gets him may feel disappointed. I still think he's the top corner in the draft but I'm not sure he merits where he's being ranked.

Roy P · #7 04-14-2015, 11:40 AM

Excellent points about "hands" on the prospects. Sammie Coates drops a lot of passes. I think Perriman is a little bit better. Dorsett actually has larger hands, but Tyler Lockett seems to catch the ball more easily. Finding the "natural hands catchers" with size and speed is kind of limited to the top 3. So, we're going to have to find players who we can hide insufficiency and demonstrate strength.

Warren · #8 04-15-2015, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Regarding Waynes, what I read is he can run really fast and can break up passes. Ok, nice. What I didn't read was that he can tackle well or intercept passes. So, IMO, he reminds me of Aqib Talib who runs really fast and can shadow your top receiver but he gets hurt if you ask him to make a tackle and he rarely picks off passes. Is that what you want to spend a mid-round #1 on?

Now if he fell to the late first or early second, then, yeah, let's get him. In the 8-16 range, whoever gets him may feel disappointed. I still think he's the top corner in the draft but I'm not sure he merits where he's being ranked.

Here's a good article on Waynes' tackling: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ostly-imagined. Summary: Not a good tackler at all, but he is a top cover guy and he does make an effort at tackling. You can work on his tackling and he has coverage ability that you can't teach.