2015 Mocks

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I'm seeing several different possible names being floated for #16 right now. Cameron Erving (C-G, Florida St.), Randy Gregory (OLB, Nebraska), Shane Ray (OLB, Missouri), Malcom Brown (DL, Texas), La'el Collins (OT, LSU). Some mocks have them all falling to us. Although I'm still locked into the best WR left on the board, I could live with any of them which is why I'd love to see the Texans trade down another 5-7 spots and hopefully pick up a second in the trade-down.

Particularly if there are 2 of the 4 top receivers left, I think we could still get one after the trade down (if one of the receivers is White or Cooper, unlikely as that is, then I'd stay put and just take one of them).

Cam Erving is a guy I hope falls to the Colts, but I doubt he drops that far. Gregory isn't a possibility b/c this owner won't sign off on a player who failed his piss test at the Combine as a first round pick, I hope. (Disregarding Cushing). I feel Ray and Collins are off the board when the Texans draft. Malcolm Brown is the best player I honestly believe could be available, and I would take him. The pundits love Shelton, but I think Brown is the cream of this crop. He is a mixture of Suh and McCoy in my opinion.

This WR class has depth. I am hesitant to draft any WR at where we are not named Cooper, White, or Parker. I love Dorsett, but am considering Conley from Georgia and Goodley from Baylor that I am debating taking a different position early in the draft.

If we select Strong or Eli Harold without trading down, then we are "reaching" to fill a need.

[HPF Bob]

1) Traded 1-16 to Detroit for 1-23 and 2-22.
2) Traded 4th, 5th and 6th to Green Bay for 3-30.
3) Indy offers a 2-29, a 4th and a 5th for 2-22. I swallow then take it.

At 1-23, Jaelen Strong is not there but DeVante Parker is. Here's the list:

23 - R1P23 (from DET) WR DEVANTE PARKER LOUISVILLE
51 - R2P19 TE MAXX WILLIAMS MINNESOTA
61 - R2P29 (from IND) C HRONISS GRASU OREGON
82 - R3P18 OLB LORENZO MAULDIN LOUISVILLE
94 - R3P30 (from GB) CB RONALD DARBY FLORIDA STATE
128 - R4P29 (from IND) CB-FS ERIC ROWE UTAH
165 - R5P29 (from IND) ILB HAYES PULLARD SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
175 - R5P39 (comp) DT DERRICK LOTT CHATTANOOGA
211 - R6P35 (comp) WR-KR ANTWAN GOODLEY BAYLOR
216 - R6P40 (comp) G MILES DIEFFENBACH PENN STATE
235 - R7P18 RB TREY WILLIAMS TEXAS A&M

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

1) Traded 1-16 to Detroit for 1-23 and 2-22.
2) Traded 4th, 5th and 6th to Green Bay for 3-30.
3) Indy offers a 2-29, a 4th and a 5th for 2-22. I swallow then take it.

At 1-23, Jaelen Strong is not there but DeVante Parker is. Here's the list:

23 - R1P23 (from DET) WR DEVANTE PARKER LOUISVILLE
128 - R4P29 (from IND) CB-FS ERIC ROWE UTAH
175 - R5P39 (comp) DT DERRICK LOTT CHATTANOOGA
211 - R6P35 (comp) WR-KR ANTWAN GOODLEY BAYLOR

Wow! Strong is off the board but Parker is available at #23. I have a very hard time buying that scenario. Big fan of Rowe, Lott, and Goodley by the way.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

1) Traded 1-16 to Detroit for 1-23 and 2-22.
2) Traded 4th, 5th and 6th to Green Bay for 3-30.&M

I hate trading up in the draft, but if I were giving up my 4th, 5th and 6th to get back into the 3rd round at 3-30 it would only be to select Bryce Petty.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Gregory isn't a possibility b/c this owner won't sign off on a player who failed his piss test at the Combine as a first round pick, I hope. (Disregarding Cushing).

I don't remember Cushing failing a test before the draft, I could be forgetting something, but I do remember the owner signing off on Amobi Okoye, who IIRC failed the drug test at the combine. So one time fails get a pass, repeatedly failing test, they get removed from the board.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I don't remember Cushing failing a test before the draft, I could be forgetting something, but I do remember the owner signing off on Amobi Okoye, who IIRC failed the drug test at the combine. So one time fails get a pass, repeatedly failing test, they get removed from the board.

IIRC, Cushing had steroid allegations before the draft. I don't recall anything else.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

IIRC, Cushing had steroid allegations before the draft. I don't recall anything else.

Allegations, but never a confirmed failed test IIRC. Big difference IMO.

[Roy P]

When Cushing was suspended for Performance Enhancing violation, it was my understanding that it wasn't the first offense. He was already on double - secret probation. I surmised that his first violation was at the Combine.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Roy P

When Cushing was suspended for Performance Enhancing violation, it was my understanding that it wasn't the first offense. He was already on double - secret probation. I surmised that his first violation was at the Combine.

Players are suspended on the first positive test under the performance enhancing drug policy. At that time the first positive PED test brought a four game suspension and a second positive was eight games. Cushing got four games. You're thinking of recreational drugs.

[Roy P]

Was Luis Castillo suspended for 4 games his rookie season for testing positive at the Combine?

Regardless, I would not have drafted Castillo or Cushing and I would not want Gregory this year with my 1st round pick. Red Flag that isn't worth the risk.