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Old 04-03-2015, 07:27 PM
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If I could just field a defensive team from this draft, these would be my guys. They have all of the measurables that I look for:

Pos Name School Height Weight 10 40 Cone Shuttle Vert Bench Arm Jump Hand
CB Byron Jones Connecticut 6'1" 199 4.36 6.78 3.94 44.5 32" 12'3" 10"
CB Kevin Johson Wake Forest 6'0 1/4" 188 4.52 6.79 3.89 41.5 31 10'10" 8 3/8"
S Eric Rowe Utah 6'1 205 4.45 6.7 3.97 39 19 31 1/2" 10'5" 9 1/2"
S Damarious Randall Az State 5' 10 5/8" 196 4.46 6.83 4.07 38 14 30 1/4" 10' 8 5/8"
ILB Stephone Anthony Clemson 6'3" 243 4.56 7.07 4.03 37 23 32 1/2" 10'2" 10 3/8"
ILB Jake Ryan Michigan 6'2" 240 4.65 7.11 4.2 34.5 20 31" 10'0" 9 3/8"
OLB Vic Beasley Clemson 6'3" 246 1.59 4.53 6.91 4.15 41 35 32 1/2" 10'10" 9 3/8"
OLB Eli Harold Virginia 6'3" 247 1.56 4.6 7.07 4.16 35 33" 10'3" 9 3/8"
NT Malcolm Brown Texas 6' 2 3/8" 319 1.75 5.05 7.84 4.59 29.5 26 32 1/2" 8'2" 10"
NT Derrick Lott Chattanooga 6'4" 314 1.81 4.99 7.3 4.44 26.5 30 33 5/8" 8'10" 9 1/8"
DE Henry Anderson Stanford 6'6 1/4" 294 1.63 4.93 7.2 4.19 30 33 1/2" 9' 3" 9 3/4"
DE Preston Smith Miss State 6' 4 3/4" 271 1.65 4.74 7.07 4.28 34 24 34" 10' 1" 10 5/8"
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Old 04-04-2015, 05:58 PM
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Rank Pos Name School Height Weight
1 WR Amari Cooper Alabama 6' 7/8" 211
2 WR Kevin White West Va 6' 2 5/8" 215
3 OLB Vic Beasley Clemson 6'3" 246
4 OLB Dante Fowler Jr. Florida 6' 2 5/8" 261
5 OT La'el Collins LSU 6'4" 305
6 OLB Bud Dupree Kentucky 6'4 269
7 WR DeVante Parker Louisville 6'3" 209
8 NT Malcolm Brown Texas 6' 2 3/8" 319
9 WR Jaelen Strong Az State 6'2 217
10 OC Cameron Erving Fla State 6'5" 313
11 RB Melvin Gordon Wisconsin 6' 5/8" 215
12 OG Brandon Scherff Iowa 6'5" 319
13 OLB Eli Harold Virginia 6'3" 247
14 RB Todd Gurley Georgia 6'1" 222
15 CB Trae Waynes Mich St 6' 1/8" 186
16 NT Eddie Goldman Fla State 6'4" 336
17 OT Andrus Peat Stanford 6'7" 313
18 WR Breshad Perriman Central Fla 6'2" 212
19 ILB Stephone Anthony Clemson 6'2 3/8" 243
20 DE Henry Anderson Stanford 6'6 1/4" 294
21 DE Preston Smith Miss State 6' 4 3/4" 271
22 CB Byron Jones Connecticut 6'1" 199
23 CB Kevin Johson Wake Forest 6'0 1/4" 188
24 ILB Benardrick McKinney Miss State 6'4" 246
25 OT Jake Fisher Oregon 6'6" 306
26 OT D.J. Humphries Florida 6'5" 307
27 WR Phillip Dorsett Miami 5'10" 185
28 OT T.J. Clemmings Pittsburgh 6'5" 309
29 OLB Owamagbe Odighizuwa UCLA 6'3" 267
30 TE Maxx Williams Minnesota 6'4" 249
31 OC Ali Marpet Hobart 6'4" 307
32 OG Laken Tomlinson Duke 6'3" 323
33 DE Xavier Cooper Wash State 6'3" 293
34 FS Eric Rowe Utah 6'1 205
35 WR Devin Smith Ohio St 6'0" 196
36 WR Nelson Agholor USC 6'0" 195
37 OG Donovan Smith Penn St 6'6" 338
38 TE Clive Walford Miami 6'4 1/8" 254
39 OLB Anthony Chickillo Miami 6'3" 267
40 WR Tyler Lockett Kansas St 5'10" 182
41 OLB Nate Orchard Utah 6'3" 252
42 RB David Johnson N. Iowa 6' 5/8" 224
43 RB Jay Ajayi Boise St 6 221
44 FS Alex Carter Stanford 6'0" 196
45 RB Tevin Coleman Indiana 5'11" 206
46 OLB Danielle Hunter LSU 6'5 252
47 OT Cedric Ogbuehi Texas A&M 6'5" 306
48 NT Gabe Wright Auburn 6'3" 300
49 RB Duke Johnson Miami 5' 9 1/8" 207
50 CB Ronald Darby Fla State 5' 10 5/8" 193
51 CB D'Joun Smith Fla Atlantic 5'10" 187
52 OLB Za'Darius Smith Kentucky 6'4" 274
53 ILB Jake Ryan Michigan 6'2" 240
54 ILB Ben Heeney Kansas 6'0" 231
55 RB T.J. Yeldon Alabama 6' 1 1/4" 226
56 QB Bryce Petty Baylor 6'3" 230
57 FS Damarious Randall Az State 5' 10 5/8" 196
58 RB David Cobb Minnesota 5'11" 229
59 CB Steven Nelson Oregon St 5'10" 197
60 ILB Kwon Alexander LSU 6'1" 227
61 CB Doran Grant Ohio St 5' 10" 200
62 TE Jesse James Penn State 6'7" 261
63 RB Jeremy Langford Mich St 5' 11 5/8" 208
64 WR Tre McBride Will&Mary 6 210
65 ILB Jordan Hicks Texas 6'1" 236
66 FS Cody Prewitt Mississippi 6'2" 208
67 FS Kurtis Drummond Mich St 6'1" 208
68 FS James Sample Louisville 6'2" 209
69 NT Derrick Lott Chattanooga 6'4" 314
70 OG John Miller Louisville 6'2" 303
71 RB Mike Davis S. Carolina 5'9" 217
72 RB Cameron Artis-Payne Auburn 5'10 212
73 RB Javorius Allen USC 6' 221
74 QB Shane Carden East Carolina 6'2" 218
75 RB Tyler Varga Yale 5'11" 222
76 WR Chris Conley Georgia 6'2 213
77 ILB Mike Hull Penn State 6'0" 237
78 ILB Davis Tull Chattanooga 6'2" 246
79 CB Charles Gaines Louisville 5'10" 180
80 NT Xavier Williams N. Iowa 6'2" 325
81 WR Justin Hardy East Carolina 5'10" 192
82 OG Mitch Morse Missouri 6'5" 305
83 WR Jamison Crowder Duke 5'8" 185
84 ILB Bryce Hagar Baylor 6'1" 234
85 CB Justin Coleman Tennessee 5'10 5/8" 185
86 RB Karlos Williams Fla State 6' 3/4" 230
87 RB Zach Zenner S. Dakota St 5'11" 223
88 NT Leterrius Walton Cent Michigan 6'5" 319
89 DE Corey Crawford Clemson 6'5" 283
90 WR Antwan Goodley Baylor 5'10" 209
91 CB Craig Mager Texas St 5' 11 1/2" 201
92 DE Lynden Trail Norfolk St 6'7" 269
93 OT Andrew Donnal Iowa 6'6" 313
94 OC Greg Mancz Toledo 6'4" 301
95 CB Damian Swann Georgia 6'0 189
96 CB Bobby McCain Memphis 5' 9 1/2" 195
97 DE Ray Drew Georgia 6'4" 284
98 OLB Alani Fua BYU 6'5" 238
99 OLB Deion Barnes Penn State 6'4" 425
100 ILB Edmond Robinson Newberry 6'3" 245
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:25 PM
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99 OLB Deion Barnes Penn State 6'4" 425
Dude's at the wrong position with that weight.
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Old 04-04-2015, 09:16 PM
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Dude's at the wrong position with that weight.
Ummm...my dyslexia kicked in. 245lbs
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Old 04-05-2015, 12:39 PM
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16: DT MALCOM BROWN TEXAS
51: RB MELVIN GORDON WISCONSIN
82: WR BRESHAD PERRIMAN CENTRAL FLORIDA
116: G ALI MARPET HOBART
152: DE ANTHONY CHICKILLO MIAMI
175: ILB JAKE RYAN MICHIGAN
195: TE JESS JAMES PENN STATE
211: DE ZA'DARIUS SMITH KENTUCKY
216: QB SHANE CARDEN ECU
235: CB JUSTIN COLEMAN TENNESSEE

Not really sure how they could possibly have Malcom Brown rated in the 50's on their board, but I took this guy at #16 and didn't blink. I know we have Wilfork on a short-lease, but I am thinking long-term. In the immediate future, he plays DE.

Melvin Gordan in the 2nd round? Yes, thank you very much. I wanted an OLB or WR or ILB in the second, but I can't pass on Gordon. BPA.

Perriman in the 3rd round made me very happy, since I think he's got first round talent. He is raw, but we have D-Hop to be the #1. Perriman may overtake him next season. Meanwhile, he stretches the defense by taking the top off.

I loved Marpet at the Senior bowl. He anchors well and can play all 3 interior positions. He can start in a pinch at C if Ben Jones can't or needs to slide to G.

Chickillo is one of my favorites. Another guy who impressed me at the East-West Shrine and Senior Bowls. I feel he was out of position at Miami and even played the 5-Tech in the 3-4. Has a non-stop motor, good blood lines, was a stand-out recruit in High School and simply should not last this long. I see tons of potential filling in for the departed Brooks Reed.

I had to fill my ILB need and was able to snag Jake Ryan. He was moved all over the field at Michigan, but I feel with our D-Line he is going to make plays. He has a nose for the ball and is extremely athletic. His play on the field should motivate Cushing.

This offense needs a TE who can catch in the Red Zone. Maxx and Clive were off the board so I reached a little to make sure I didn't miss on Jessie James. He's 6'7", 33" arms, 37.5" vertical, 10'1" broad jump, 26 reps on the Bench, was recruited by BO'B at Penn State. What's not to love?

I enjoyed watching Z. Smith and Chickillo converging in the backfield around the QB in their Bowl games. So, I decided to keep the party going. Bud Dupree got all the publicity at UK, but Z'Adarius is a hard-worker and gets effort-sacks. He's also good against the run. Clowney and Merciless could surprise me and perform well this season, but I'm grooming these two guys behind them for depth.

Shane Carden is my favorite QB in the draft. He doesn't have the physical gifts that Bryce Petty has, however, I can potentially stash him on the practice squad this season. Like many college QBs, he didn't take many snaps under center, but I liked what I saw in Senior Bowl practices. I watched him throw at the Combine and feel he has the arm to compete at the next level. What impresses most about him is probably his demeanor and leadership qualities. His teammates love him and love playing for him. He has a Brett Favre-type charisma. The 2nd thing I like is how he is in the pocket, I can see him going through progressions and making quick decisions. I have him ahead of Mariota, Hundley, and Petty in that regard and find that will accelerate him at the next level. He reminds me of Ryan Nassib and Jimmy Garoppolo in terms of his football IQ and pocket presence, I loved those guys coming out. He also went to high school in Bellaire, so he's got that going for him.

I suppose Justin Coleman is simply a 'sleeper' in this draft. He went to an SEC school, but I don't hear anyone really talking about him. I am confident he could play the Nickle on day-one. That's right, a 7th round pick who can start. When reporters ask WRs who was the toughest CB they went up against, the common theme is "That guy from Tennessee." He didn't blow up with a 4.3 in the 40, but he ran a respectable 4.53. He uses good technique to mirror. He's not Richard Sherman at only 5' 10 5/8" 185lbs, but he is a willing tackler in run support. He's 'twitchy' to stay with slot WRs as his 6.61-Cone Drill and 3.98-Shuttle would attest. He has good hands to make and Interception and excels in Zone where he can read the QB.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:00 PM
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16: DT MALCOM BROWN TEXAS

Not really sure how they could possibly have Malcom Brown rated in the 50's on their board, but I took this guy at #16 and didn't blink. I know we have Wilfork on a short-lease, but I am thinking long-term. In the immediate future, he plays DE.
At the owners meetings I thought it was interesting listening to O'Brien talking about his defense, Someone asked about the 3-4, and Bill said that it's funny how little they run out of the 3-4 base. My memory is not sharp at the moment, but I believe it was less than 20% of the time, might have been in the 20s.

That said how often could you go with 2 big DTs? Maybe able to create mismatches and decision for the the opposing teams coaching staff. So drafting Brown could be a prudent move.
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Old 04-06-2015, 05:15 PM
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Default Different Big Boards similar results

#16 OLB Vic Beasley, OLB Bud Dupree, WR Devante Parker
#51 WR Breshad Perriman, WR Breshad Perriman, ILB Stephone Anthony
#82 WR Phillip Dorsett, WR Phillip Dorsett, OLB Anthony Chickillo
#116 TE Jesse James, DB Eric Rowe, DB Eric Rowe
#152 ILB Jake Ryan, ILB Jake Ryan, TE Jesse James
#175 FB Tyler Varga, FB Tyler Varga, DT Derrick Lott
#195 QB Shane Carden, QB Shane Carden, FB Tyler Varga
#211 CB Justin Coleman, OC Greg Mancz, CB Justin Coleman
#216 OC Greg Mancz, RB Zach Zenner, OC Greg Mancz
#235 RB Zach Zenner, CB Justin Coleman, OLB Alani Fua

Wanted to see what I could do with the different Big Boards and how it effected depending upon who dropped to me in the first round.
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Old 05-01-2015, 05:05 PM
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If I could just field a defensive team from this draft, these would be my guys. They have all of the measurables that I look for:

Pos Name School Height Weight 10 40 Cone Shuttle Vert Bench Arm Jump Hand
CB Byron Jones Connecticut 6'1" 199 4.36 6.78 3.94 44.5 32" 12'3" 10"
CB Kevin Johson Wake Forest 6'0 1/4" 188 4.52 6.79 3.89 41.5 31 10'10" 8 3/8"
S Eric Rowe Utah 6'1 205 4.45 6.7 3.97 39 19 31 1/2" 10'5" 9 1/2"
S Damarious Randall Az State 5' 10 5/8" 196 4.46 6.83 4.07 38 14 30 1/4" 10' 8 5/8"
ILB Stephone Anthony Clemson 6'3" 243 4.56 7.07 4.03 37 23 32 1/2" 10'2" 10 3/8"
ILB Jake Ryan Michigan 6'2" 240 4.65 7.11 4.2 34.5 20 31" 10'0" 9 3/8"
OLB Vic Beasley Clemson 6'3" 246 1.59 4.53 6.91 4.15 41 35 32 1/2" 10'10" 9 3/8"
OLB Eli Harold Virginia 6'3" 247 1.56 4.6 7.07 4.16 35 33" 10'3" 9 3/8"
NT Malcolm Brown Texas 6' 2 3/8" 319 1.75 5.05 7.84 4.59 29.5 26 32 1/2" 8'2" 10"
NT Derrick Lott Chattanooga 6'4" 314 1.81 4.99 7.3 4.44 26.5 30 33 5/8" 8'10" 9 1/8"
DE Henry Anderson Stanford 6'6 1/4" 294 1.63 4.93 7.2 4.19 30 33 1/2" 9' 3" 9 3/4"
DE Preston Smith Miss State 6' 4 3/4" 271 1.65 4.74 7.07 4.28 34 24 34" 10' 1" 10 5/8"
Interesting that we drafted Kevin Johnson. Byron Jones, Damarious Randall, Stephon Anthony, Vic Beasley, and Malcolm Brown were also selected in the first round.
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Old 05-01-2015, 05:07 PM
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These are my guys I could see being drafted today:

OLB Eli Harold Virginia
OLB Preston Smith Miss State
FS Eric Rowe Utah
WR Jaelen Strong Az State
OT Jake Fisher Oregon
WR Devin Smith Ohio St
ILB Benardrick McKinney Miss State
OT T.J. Clemmings Pittsburgh
NT Eddie Goldman Fla State
WR Tyler Lockett Kansas St
WR Rashad Greene Fla State
QB Bryce Petty Baylor
DE Henry Anderson Stanford
OC Ali Marpet Hobart
OLB Owamagbe Odighizuwa UCLA
TE Maxx Williams Minnesota
NT Grady Jarrett Clemson
DE Xavier Cooper Wash State
RB David Johnson N. Iowa
OG Donovan Smith Penn St
FS Alex Carter Stanford
RB Jay Ajayi Boise St
OLB Anthony Chickillo Miami
TE Jesse James Penn State
WR Chris Conley Georgia
TE Blake Bell Oklahoma
OLB Nate Orchard Utah
OLB Za'Darius Smith Kentucky
RB Tevin Coleman Indiana
RB Javorius Allen USC
CB Ronald Darby Fla State
OG Mitch Morse Missouri
ILB Jake Ryan Michigan
NT Gabe Wright Auburn
RB T.J. Yeldon Alabama
WR Justin Hardy East Carolina
ILB Ben Heeney Kansas
CB Steven Nelson Oregon St
WR Tre McBride Will&Mary
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