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Old 03-21-2015, 01:07 PM
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I have been doing at least one mock a day at Fanspeak and it is interesting how often somebody falls at #16 you didn't expect and that trade-down possibilties are there. With all the trading frenzy that happened in free agency, some draft-day trades also seem very likely.
I have drafted Amari Cooper and Kevin White. As well as Bud Dupree and Randy Gregory. Even Shane Ray could fall after his Pro Day.
I have either done the same or had the opportunity. My eyes popped when it was Gregory. As much as I wanted to draft a WR in the first, I chose Gregory. I've seen him go as early as #3 in some mocks. Imagine if we could throw him, Watt, Wilfork, Cushing and a healthy Clowney at teams?

Here's a fairly representative sample. Keep in mind that this is before the comp picks are announced and without much study of lower-round prospects. When it got to 16, Devante Parker was available but there were also some good defensive players and Jaelen Strong was still on the board so I traded down with Cincinnati to #21 and acquired their third-rounder, thinking I still had Strong if I lost out on Parker. Instead, Parker was still there.

#21 - (from CIN) Devante Parker, WR, Louisville
#51 - Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson
#82 - Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon (if Myers isn't re-signed, we need a C behind Ben Jones)
#85 - (from CIN) Jesse James, TE, Penn St. (for O'Brien)
#113 - Chris Hackett, S, TCU
#144 - Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (since he's still there and we publicly courted him)
#179 - Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas (fell off a bit as a senior but has NFL talent)
#210 - Chucky Hunter, DT, TCU

I have my doubts about Conley but the others could realistically be there at that point of the draft.

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Old 03-21-2015, 07:49 PM
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I am a bit skeptical of some of the draft boards that I am seeing them use. If it's too good to be true, it probably is. Yet it is nice to see some of the possibilities. I also use it to verify when I like a player too much and draft them in the 3rd round and see them consistently being drafted in the 5th or 6th round if I pass on them. I have used four different draft boards and these are some of the permutations :

1st round - Amari Cooper, Bud Dupree, Jaelen Strong, Kevin White
2nd round - Clive Walford, Laken Tomlinson, Preston Smith, Kevin Johnson
3rd round - Henry Anderson, Ali Marpet, Philip Dorsett, Xavier Cooper
4th round - Anthony Chickillo, Donovan Smith, Eric Rowe, Steven Nelson
5th round - Bryce Petty, Jesse James, Ben Heeney, Kwon Alexander
6th round - David Johnson, Derrick Lott, Tre McBride, Damarious Randall
7th round - Jake Ryan, Xavier Williams, Mitch Morse, Shane Carden
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:11 PM
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As I was saying....I have a hard time buying some of the "information" I have read. So, I decided to throw my hat in the ring and create my own mock draft.

1 TB DT Leonard Williams
2 Tenn DE Dante Fowler
3 Jax DE Vic Beasley
4 Oak OLB Randy Gregory
5 Wash QB Jameis Winston
6 NYJ OLB Shane Ray
7 Chi CB Trae Waynes
8 Atl DE Bud Dupree
9 NYG S Landon Collins
10 StL WR Kevin White
11 Minn OT La'el Collins
12 Cle WR Amari Cooper
13 NO DT Malcolm Brown
14 Mia OT Ereck Flowers
15 SF OG Brandon Scherff
16 Hou WR Devante Parker
17 SD QB Marcus Mariota
18 KC OC Cameron Erving
19 Cle DT Danny Shelton
20 Phi DE Preston Smith
21 Cin WR Jaelen Strong
22 Pitt DE Arik Armstead
23 Det OT TJ Clemmings
24 Az RB Melvin Gordon
25 Car OT Andrus Peat
26 Bal RB Todd Gurley
27 Dal DT Jordan Phillips
28 Den LB Eric Kendricks
29 Ind OLB Eli Harold
30 GB DT Eddie Goldman
31 NO CB Jalen Collins
32 NE CB Kevin Johnson

Winston has too much documented off-field issues and Lovey is a Defensive Coach. He can't pass on the "Next Warren Sapp" in Tampa Bay. The Redskins can still trade RGIII since Coach Gruden doesn't seem to appreciate him. Phil Rivers is pressing his luck in SD, so the Chargers buy insurance that falls in their laps. Two RBs in the first round?!?!
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Old 03-22-2015, 02:36 AM
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I can't believe Mariota falls to 17. Surely the Jets draft him if nobody else will. If we're at 16 and Mariota is still on the board, we're going to get some great offers to trade down, particularly from Philly.
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Old 03-22-2015, 11:26 AM
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I can't believe Mariota falls to 17. Surely the Jets draft him if nobody else will. If we're at 16 and Mariota is still on the board, we're going to get some great offers to trade down, particularly from Philly.
I am hopeful, just not sure if Chip Kelly pulls the trigger. If Cleveland gets on the phone to express interest, then maybe. Chip may be bluffing, but it sounded like he was content with Sam Bradford & Mark Sanchez. Then, again he may be betting on Mariota falling to him at 20 after that bad Pro Day.
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Old 03-22-2015, 12:34 PM
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Some things to keep in mind. Mariota could fall because he isn't NFL Ready for any other team except the Eagles. There are other players available who can make an impact in the rookie year. Now, Cleveland has an extra first round pick to risk. So, we would have to make a market and have Cleveland bidding against Philadelphia for the chance to leapfrog. We tell the Browns that Mariota isn't dropping to #19 because Philadelphia isn't staying at #20.

Looking at the Trade Value chart our #16 pick is worth 1000 points.
Cle : #19 (875), #77 (205), #108 (78) #139 (37) #173 (22)
Phi : #20 (850), #84 (170), #110 (74) #148 (32) #180 (19)

So, we could get a 3rd & 4th from Philly or a 4th, 5th, and 6th from Cleveland. So, you give up the opportunity to get a "Top 3 WR" for an extra 3rd or 4th rounder. I would do it, not sure if Rick Smith would. Of course he may only be offered a 4th & 5th or nothing at all if both teams believe that Mariota continues to free fall.
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Old 03-22-2015, 01:44 PM
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I just completed another mock draft on Fanspeak.com and came away with the following :
#16 WR Amari Cooper
#51 CB Kevin Johnson
#82 WR Phillip Dorsett
#113 OC Ali Marpet
#144 OLB Anthony Chickillo
#179 OT D.J. Humphries
#210 ILB Bryce Hager

I have a hard time believing Humphries lasts that long, but was using the "Composite" Draft Board.

Considering the Eagles potential draft trade, the players available at #84 included DL Henry Anderson, QB Bryce Petty, OL Donovan Smith, & WR Devin Smith. The players available at #110 included ILBs Jake Ryan, Stephone Anthony, and Jordan Hicks.
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