Who's your QB next week...next year

HPF Bob · #1 03-03-2015, 06:51 PM

I understand what Barrett is saying. I would probably offer Mallett a structured deal that allows him more money based on starts for probably a 3-yr contract. Start 12 or more games, we pay you x. Less than 12 because you got IR'd, we pay you y. Less than 12 but more than 8, we pay you z. Have some other incentives put in it and then a higher guarantee figure to make it marketable.

It would be tricky but it can be done. There has to be rewards for Mallett if he excels and safeguards for the Texans if he doesn't.

Arky · #2 03-04-2015, 02:30 PM

I'd go with Mallet (of course) and I expect to hear some breaking news within the next few days/week on his future.

I'd keep Keenum (cheaper than Fitz) and Savage as 2a and 2b and hope that Mallet stays healthy and neither sees the field. Although, if the Texans have their eye on an early round QB such as Petty, then it could be Mallet with Savage/Petty as the backups...

barrett · #3 03-09-2015, 02:16 PM

Like I said, McCown's deal meant nothing for Mallett. Veteran backups get paid. You only get paid for potential if a team is investing the future in you and it was obvious no team was going to do that for Mallett. I think this is the perfect deal for Mallett and for Houston.

I have mixed feelings on Hoyer. I think he's generally terrible and just does not have the accuracy to play NFL football. But he has the traits you want in your backup and BOB obviously likes him. Oh well.

Arky · #4 03-09-2015, 04:36 PM

One thing today's events do is probably make getting a QB in the draft a non-priority, in fact, they may just skip QB all together....

Roy P · #5 03-09-2015, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky

One thing today's events do is probably make getting a QB in the draft a non-priority, in fact, they may just skip QB all together....

My sleeper QB in this draft is Shane Carden from East Carolina. He may be available in the 6th round or later. With all the QBs currently on the roster, we could stash him on the Practice Squad. With as little as we utilized Savage last season, I'm not sure why we didn't do that with him or if that's a possibility this season?

Nconroe · #6 03-09-2015, 07:29 PM

On stashing Savage on practice squad, I thought they didn't do that because if they do that then any team can claim Savage, and likely some team would claim him.

Now if Savage does terrible in preseason, yeah , then you could stash on the practice squad.

I guess we will hear Keenum and Fitz cut pretty soon. Keenum is a restricted FA I think since under three years , but if Texans don't tender then he is FA.

HPF Bob · #7 03-09-2015, 10:52 PM

I am happy Mallett was re-signed and Hoyer is an upgrade over Fitz. Nice holdover position until we find our QBOTF. Obviously, Fitz is done in Houston once Hoyer signs. Keenum, perhaps not. He's shown he's an adequate #3 and we could stash Savage on the PS this year so we don't have to shop for an emergency QB late in the season like we did in '14.

WMH · #8 03-09-2015, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

Like I said, McCown's deal meant nothing for Mallett. Veteran backups get paid. You only get paid for potential if a team is investing the future in you and it was obvious no team was going to do that for Mallett. I think this is the perfect deal for Mallett and for Houston.

I have mixed feelings on Hoyer. I think he's generally terrible and just does not have the accuracy to play NFL football. But he has the traits you want in your backup and BOB obviously likes him. Oh well.

Yep, you were right, and I was wrong. Given the status of the available QB market, I assumed more people would be willing to gamble on an unknown than the slew of mediocre knowns. Not sure I agree with it, but that's certainly what happened.

barrett · #9 03-09-2015, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH

Yep, you were right, and I was wrong. Given the status of the available QB market, I assumed more people would be willing to gamble on an unknown than the slew of mediocre knowns. Not sure I agree with it, but that's certainly what happened.

I don't think it is necessarily smart what happened. I just think head coaches usually only get to miss on a QB of the future once. GM's usually get two chances.

If you sign a veteran backup it is not considered missing. He was never supposed to be the answer. Chip Kelly just paid Mark Sanchez a 2nd time after he was bad last year and he still won't be judged until he gets the QB he wants.

But if you sign a guy to actual money based on potential (or draft a guy with a valuable pick), you are making a public bet he is the guy and the clock starts running on you.

So while it would have been smarter for all those teams to go after Mallett vs known mediocrities like Fitz/Hoyer/McCown/Sanchez/etc... Self-preservation says you grab a vet and keep your options open. And I seriously think the majority of the moves in the NFL have as much to do with GM/HC reputation as they do actual talent. These guys know if they play by the rules and fail they get away with it for a while, but if they rock the boat and fail they get fired.