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Old 12-09-2014, 09:48 PM
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This is very bad.

And if you want to believe this from Rick Smith:
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“It’s a pretty extensive rehab period,” general manager Rick Smith said. “We’re hoping to have him back for the start of the season."
then you're a fool. No doubt he is missing the start of the 2015 season. Best case he is ready mid-season.
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:11 AM
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After he met with renowned orthopedic surgeon James Andrews on Wednesday, it was determined that Clowney needed a second surgery on his right knee.

Dr. Walt Lowe, the Texans' team doctor, performed both the scope on Clowney's knee earlier this season and the microfracture surgery.
So, Dr. Lowe didn't get it done right the first time so the Texans give him a second crack it??

This is the first overall draft choice that we paid a ton of money to and the Texans are going cheap by using the in-house surgeon who didn't fix the problem the first time. This sounds like Mario and his feet all over again. Man, does this get old.
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:18 AM
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What a joke of a franchise. They will never win anything, ever. Not unless they hire a Parcells sort who comes in and totally takes over. I don't know if there are any Parcells sorts left.
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:43 AM
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Well, we can trust in the team's experience with microfracture surgeries. It went so great with Brennan Williams. Remember him? The 3rd round pick from 2013 who was cut a year later after he underwent the procedure.

Seriously. Injuries are a fact of life in the NFL, but the medical history on this team has been an issue since the Tony Boselli drama and the days of the expansion draft. Maddening misinformation and an apparent lack of accountability when it comes to the medical side of their business.
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Old 12-10-2014, 05:57 PM
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Well, we can trust in the team's experience with microfracture surgeries. It went so great with Brennan Williams. Remember him? The 3rd round pick from 2013 who was cut a year later after he underwent the procedure.

Seriously. Injuries are a fact of life in the NFL, but the medical history on this team has been an issue since the Tony Boselli drama and the days of the expansion draft. Maddening misinformation and an apparent lack of accountability when it comes to the medical side of their business.
Seth Payne said something interesting on the radio today regarding Boselli. Per him, the Texans knew he was damaged goods but was required to spend X in the expansion draft. He also said there was likely a handshake deal with the Hags that they would leave him and Gary Walker as eligible for the draft if they cleared Boselli off the books. Interesting thought......

Heard a lot about the Clowney thing today, and as best I could gather was the Texans gambled as to whether or not he could function with just the scope. Turned out he couldn't and this is where we're at. Supposedly he didn't do any more damage to the knee as a resultof trying.
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:05 PM
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Seth Payne said something interesting on the radio today regarding Boselli. Per him, the Texans knew he was damaged goods but was required to spend X in the expansion draft. He also said there was likely a handshake deal with the Hags that they would leave him and Gary Walker as eligible for the draft if they cleared Boselli off the books. Interesting thought......

Heard a lot about the Clowney thing today, and as best I could gather was the Texans gambled as to whether or not he could function with just the scope. Turned out he couldn't and this is where we're at. Supposedly he didn't do any more damage to the knee as a resultof trying.
Chatty Casserly was totally obvious about the expansion draft. A team could either draft 38 (I think) players or draft to a certain salary figure. The Browns, the year before, went the first way and basically drafted rubbish (with a few minor exceptions) so Casserly decided to draft to the salary cap.

The Jets, Jaguars and Ravens were in "salary cap hell" over the revised cap levels and needed to get some pricey players off their payrolls. So Casserly approached those three teams with deals to expose good players if we would also draft some bad contracts to help the teams out of their cap positions.

So the Jags exposed Gary Walker and Seth Paine if we'd also draft Boselli.
The Jets exposed Aaron Glenn, Marcus Coleman and Ryan Young and the Ravens exposed Jamie Sharper and Jermaine Lewis. There were a couple of other names that escape me but, essentially, there were quid pro quos done with all three teams and it was a brilliant gambit. It set Dom Capers up with a strong veteran defense from the very beginning while he tried to build a young and inexperienced offense.

Unfortunately, Boselli and Young were garbage and Capers forgot to do anything about building an offensive line for David Carr who turned to jello after a few seasons of setting sack records for a QB. Lots of folks forget we were 7-9 just three years into expansion before it all caved in on itself.
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Old 12-10-2014, 09:12 PM
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Lots of folks forget we were 7-9 just three years into expansion before it all caved in on itself.
Who cares? Carolina was 7-9 in their first freaking season. Then they went to the conference championship game in their second. Jacksonville was 9-7 in their second year and went to the playoffs four times in their first five seasons. The Texans are a fking joke from the owner on down.

Two other things. The Browns re-entered the league in 1999, not 2001. Also, David Carr sucked not because he had a bad offensive line (which he did). He sucked because he sucked. Suggesting that he would have been successful behind a good line is delusion of the highest order.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:42 AM
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So, Dr. Lowe didn't get it done right the first time so the Texans give him a second crack it??

This is the first overall draft choice that we paid a ton of money to and the Texans are going cheap by using the in-house surgeon who didn't fix the problem the first time. This sounds like Mario and his feet all over again. Man, does this get old.
But ultimately it's Clowneys call, and he obviously chose to return to the Texans
doctors instead of going elsewhere. Wonder why ?
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