Official 2014 NFL Draft - Round 2 & 3 Thread

[nunusguy]

Understood we probably wouldn't take a QB in the first round, but figured it would be in the 2nd or 3rd, not the 4th or later ? Very surprising. And then it also seems puzzling that they'd draft a LG before a RT, especially with the 33rd overall, unless they plan on playing the "X-man" at RT (he's played quite a bit of tackle in college at UCLA according to his resume).

[Joe Joe]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Understood we probably wouldn't take a QB in the first round, but figured it would be in the 2nd or 3rd, not the 4th or later ? Very surprising. And then it also seems puzzling that they'd draft a LG before a RT, especially with the 33rd overall, unless they plan on playing the "X-man" at RT (he's played quite a bit of tackle in college at UCLA according to his resume).

I think the Texans are going BPA. I suspect the Texans only liked either Bortles or Bridgewater if that and without trade down from 1-1, the Texans didn't have picks to trade up into first round.

[Nconroe]

Some thoughts on OL. Could be by getting our LG for next 10 years we now let three RT , incl Quessenberry, Williams, and Newton compete.

And by using Clowneyat OLB with Mercilus, possibly Brooks Reed can go to ILB.

At QB, in a way lucky, could be Savage or Mettenberger are better than any of 5 QB already drafted. And maybe 3 QB we already have aren't that bad. Or we might trade for MCGloin or Mallett. Or something else.

And soon will have 6 or so more picks.

[popanot]

I'm starting to suspect the Mallett rumors are more media and Pats driven. Being that he's in the last year of his contract, if you trade for him, you have to start him in order to see what you have. And if that's the case, they wasted $8MM on Fitz. The only way Mallett works is if you get him for a cheap pick and he's signs a cheap, super cap friendly extension. But again, you've probably burnt $8MM on Fitz that could've went elsewhere. Smith and BOB have to see this, right?

Personally, I think they'll draft one of these rookies sooner or later and hope they strike gold. If not, pray they're in position for a top QB in 2015.

[Joe Joe]

Originally Posted by popanot

I'm starting to suspect the Mallett rumors are more media and Pats driven. Being that he's in the last year of his contract, if you trade for him, you have to start him in order to see what you have. And if that's the case, they wasted $8MM on Fitz. The only way Mallett works is if you get him for a cheap pick and he's signs a cheap, super cap friendly extension. But again, you've probably burnt $8MM on Fitz that could've went elsewhere. Smith and BOB have to see this, right?

Personally, I think they'll draft one of these rookies sooner or later and hope they strike gold. If not, pray they're in position for a top QB in 2015.

If the Texans aren't in position to take a QB next season, something will have went horribly right this coming season.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by Joe Joe

If the Texans aren't in position to take a QB next season, something will have went horribly right this coming season.

Is .500 ball horribly right? End up at pick 12+ in 2015 and we might have a hard time getting a top QB.

[Joe Joe]

Originally Posted by popanot

Is .500 ball horribly right? End up at pick 12+ in 2015 and we might have a hard time getting a top QB.

No QB and play .500...I would consider that horribly right. Also, at 12 would likely have be as good a chance at a QB as any in this draft.

[barrett]

If I can get Mallet for one of our 6ths I am not against it. I heard a report yesterday he was willing to add a year to his deal to get it done. Under those circumstances I am for it. And it still wouldn't stop me from drafting Murray/McCarron/Mettenberger/Savage if one is left in the 6th.

As for Fitzpatrick, backup QBs are paid what he is paid these days. If he is your backup this year at that salary you are fine. If you accidentally solve your QB with Mallet or a 6th round guy, you can cut Fitzpatrick, eat the cap hit, and still spend less in 2015 at QB than almost any team in the league. If you are drafting your QB in 2015, then Fitzpatrick is not a bad option as a veteran backup. Either way, I really don't see Fitzpatrick or the $8 million as a problem.

[popanot]

Re Mallett: I fully understand they likely signed Ftiz before they even thought about Mallett and wasting $8MM is secondary. However, signing Fitz also implies they were wanting to draft a QB, and probably high. While things can change, it just adds to my thought that Mallett just doesn't make sense.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by popanot

I'm starting to suspect the Mallett rumors are more media and Pats driven. Being that he's in the last year of his contract, if you trade for him, you have to start him in order to see what you have. And if that's the case, they wasted $8MM on Fitz. The only way Mallett works is if you get him for a cheap pick and he's signs a cheap, super cap friendly extension. But again, you've probably burnt $8MM on Fitz that could've went elsewhere. Smith and BOB have to see this, right?

Personally, I think they'll draft one of these rookies sooner or later and hope they strike gold. If not, pray they're in position for a top QB in 2015.

Negatory ! Let's pray we aren't in position for a top QB in 2015.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

Some thoughts on OL. Could be by getting our LG for next 10 years we now let three RT , incl Quessenberry, Williams, and Newton compete.

Former UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel, who recruited Su’a-Filo and started him as a freshman, said he’s talented enough to play left tackle in the pros but is a better fit at guard because he doesn’t have unusually long arms.

“He’s a dancing bear,” Neuheisel said. “His feet never stop, and they’re not just moving to move. They’re purposeful. He still has huge upside in terms of his strength potential, but there isn’t a better athlete in the offensive front in this draft.”
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la...505-story.html
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I'm thinking that less than ideal arm-length is not the liabilty at RT it is at LT, and given this guys athleticism I'm starting to get hopeful the Texans see
him as their salvation at RT ? Of course don't know, unless anybody has heard anything from the Texans about their specific intentions for the X-man ?

[Warren]

I haven't seen anything from the team, but one scouting report I read said X "struggled mightily" at LT and should be considered only as a G. At RT he'd still have to deal with long-armed DE rather than the shorter DTs inside.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

Some thoughts on OL. Could be by getting our LG for next 10 years we now let three RT , incl Quessenberry, Williams, and Newton compete.

And by using Clowneyat OLB with Mercilus, possibly Brooks Reed can go to ILB.

At QB, in a way lucky, could be Savage or Mettenberger are better than any of 5 QB already drafted.

These are three great points that I've been trying to keep in mind myself. We have a couple of unseen RT types that may be good solutions now that they're presumably healthy.

And I'm not at all convinced that one of the quarterbacks yet to be drafted won't be better than the five that already have been.