Official 2014 NFL Draft - Round 2 & 3 Thread

[Arky]

Radio saying the Texans are moving up! 83rd pick....

[Roy P]

NT Louis Nix ok. Why not. Need a big boy in the middle.

[Arky]

Nix!

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[barrett]

Originally Posted by Joshua

This makes sense but it's nevertheless depressing to pretty much write off this year already (and probably next year as well). O'Brien better be right that there wasn't an elite QB in this draft.

NFL coaches that will try to win with someone else's guys are rare. You don't get a ton of credit for winning with someone else's guys. You don't get to be declared a genius. Only pre-existing geniuses are willing to try it (Dungy and Gruden).

Bellachik guys are particularly well known for tearing down a franchise to rebuild it in their own image (McDaniels).

It's like you said, O'Brien better be right (about the QBs and everything else). But unless he was going to go way outside the box and roll the dice on Manziel, I am glad we passed on all these guys. I'll find some young guys to root for next year, I'll try not to let myself realize we have begun wasting JJ Watt's prime like we wated AJ's, and I will remain optimistic about the future.

[Arky]

Texans give up 4.1 and 5.1 for the trade-up.....

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Pricso at CBS Sports crabbed that the Texans should have taken Nix over Sua-Filo at #33 but it's pick #49 and Nix hasn't been called yet.

Good Call Bob. Prisco looks even dumber now that we got Nix at 83.

[Roy P]

Well, Bob, we have been wanting a big run-stuffing NT for how long? I'll admit I didn't put Nix on MY GUYS because he was getting so much buzz as a late first or early second round pick. Figured he would be off the board before we picked in the 4th which is where I would have taken him. We shall see how he performs on 1st down and 4 down.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by barrett

NFL coaches that will try to win with someone else's guys are rare. You don't get a ton of credit for winning with someone else's guys. You don't get to be declared a genius. Only pre-existing geniuses are willing to try it (Dungy and Gruden).

Bellachik guys are particularly well known for tearing down a franchise to rebuild it in their own image (McDaniels).

It's like you said, O'Brien better be right (about the QBs and everything else). But unless he was going to go way outside the box and roll the dice on Manziel, I am glad we passed on all these guys. I'll find some young guys to root for next year, I'll try not to let myself realize we have begun wasting JJ Watt's prime like we wated AJ's, and I will remain optimistic about the future.

I wish I shared your optimism. I see Fitzpatrick as a caretaker this year. Probably go 6-10 or so. Pretty much have to draft a QB next year, which may even require us to trade up and mortgage some future picks because we can't spin our wheels without even trying to get a QB for 2 straight years. Assuming we draft one, we then have a year with the rookie getting his feet wet (maybe he can take the league by storm but I doubt it). So, 2015 is likely a lost cause as well. As it stands now, 2016 is realistically when this team can reasonably be expected to compete again.

[popanot]

Talking heads on NFLN bringing up a Mallett to HOU deal again. Saying there's talk of Mallett agreeing to extend his contract for a year to get it done.

[HPF Bob]

Well we can always tank the season just for draft picks but, wait, there's a baseball team in Houston that already specializes in that. Two in one town would be brutal.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by popanot

Talking heads on NFLN bringing up a Mallett to HOU deal again. Saying there's talk of Mallett agreeing to extend his contract for a year to get it done.

Since we no longer have a 4th or a 5th, what are we using to acquire him with? Keenum?

[Joshua]

I think we have a 4th but it's a compensatory pick and can't be traded. If they trade for Mallet, I suspect it will be next year's 3rd.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by popanot

Talking heads on NFLN bringing up a Mallett to HOU deal again. Saying there's talk of Mallett agreeing to extend his contract for a year to get it done.

Why trade for him? Can't see him making the team after NE drafting a QB in the 2nd. Belicheat is a 2 QB kinda guy.

At this point, I don't see that he's that much upgrade over Fitz.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Joshua

This makes sense but it's nevertheless depressing to pretty much write off this year already (and probably next year as well). O'Brien better be right that there wasn't an elite QB in this draft.

What makes it hurt more is that 2014, like 2013, is another opportunity for a playoff run. The division is weak, the conference is full of incomplete and/or aging playoff teams, and the schedule this fall is not all that daunting on paper.

If 2013 taught us anything, it should be that you need a QB to win. Perhaps if we were clued into the long-term plan at the position, I might feel better.

That said, I do like all of the picks made so far. But you need a QB to win.

[Nconroe]

Seems we got 4 guys who will contribute in 2014 which is a good thing.

I'm glad we got Nix.

What next, perhaps ILB or CB or QB? At end of 4th?

[popanot]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Since we no longer have a 4th or a 5th, what are we using to acquire him with? Keenum?

Don't we have the Raiders 5th for Schaub? I'm assuming Bilicheck would almost give him away now. No way would I give a 2015 pick for him unless it's late conditional pick.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by popanot

Don't we have the Raiders 5th for Schaub? I'm assuming Bilicheck would almost give him away now. No way would I give a 2015 pick for him unless it's late conditional pick.

No it was a 6th.

We have 4.35 - compensatory, can't trade
3 - 6's
2 - 7's

[popanot]

Originally Posted by WMH

No it was a 6th.

Ah, thanks!

[Arky]

Round 3 in the books (w/ESPN grade):

1 C.J. Fiedorowicz TE Texans 72
2 Morgan Moses OT Redskins 92
3 Billy Turner OT Dolphins 58
4 Dez Southward S Falcons 58
5 Charles Sims RB Buccaneers 70
6 Marcus Martin C 49ers 87
7 Chris Kirksey OLB Browns 61
8 Scott Crichton DE Vikings 80
9 Preston Brown ILB Bills 65
10 Jay Bromley DT Giants 48
11 Tre Mason RB Rams 78
12 Travis Swanson C Lions 51
13 Chris Borland ILB 49ers 70
14 Spencer Long OG Redskins 49
15 Terrence Brooks S Ravens 80
16 Dex McDougle DB Jets 47
17 Gabe Jackson OG Raiders 73
18 Will Sutton DT Bears 61
19 Louis Nix III DT Texans 88
20 Kareem Martin DE Cardinals 71
21 Khyri Thornton DT Packers 57
22 Josh Huff WR Eagles 60
23 Phillip Gaines DB Chiefs 71
24 William Clarke DE Bengals 61
25 Chris Watt OG Chargers 54
26 Donte Moncrief WR Colts 68
27 John Brown WR Cardinals 59
28 Trai Turner OG Panthers 76
29 Brandon Linder OG Jaguars 56
30 Terrance West RB Browns 68
31 Michael Schofield OT Broncos 55
32 Jerick McKinnon RB Vikings 51
33 Dri Archer RB Steelers 68
34 Richard Rodgers TE Packers 44
35 Crockett Gillmore TE Ravens 54
36 Brandon Thomas OG 49ers 70

[WMH]

Maybe they'll say piss on it all together, but I gotta think they'll take one of these guys at 4.35.....maybe?

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QBs still undrafted: AJ McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, Aaron Murray, Tom Savage, Logan Thomas, D Fales, Keith Wenning, Brett Smith, Tajh Boyd.