Texans-Falcons Trade In The Works?

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

So we should have taken David Carr over Julius Peppers in 2002 and Vince Young (or Matt Leinart) over Mario Williams in 2006? Great thinking.

The Texans have been here before, not once but twice. The one thing they didn't do the previous times was to trade down for more choices. That's what I'd like to see them do since even the elites seem to come with red flags.

Otherwise, how about using 1/1 for the guys with the fewest red flags - Jake Matthews or Khalil Mack?

That must be why everyone is pining for the Mario era. Despite being the better pick but at the end of the day, we had nothing to show for it. Even if you get it right, it doesn't matter if you don't have a QB. We didn't win many games as a result of taking him. In fact, you could make a pretty strong case that VY, despite being the clearly inferior player, nevertheless contributed to winning more than Mario did. That's why I think you have to try and get the QB right. It's worth the risk. You want to take a safe RT? Because last year's playoff teams were a who's who of the league's premiere RTs?

You seem to think that if you build a good enough team at all other positions, you can get by with an average QB. That worked fine in 1985. Not now.

[Nconroe]

Lots of talk right now about this tweet.

@ESPNNFL: RT @LRiddickESPN: Hearing rumblings of a potential draft day trade that could blow the top off of the draft involving the QB position.

Some think it means Cowboys trading with Texans.

But who knows.

[Warren]

The Cowboys would have to give up a ton to move up from 16 to the top spot.

In 2012, it cost the Redskins their 2012 1st (#6) and 2nd (#39), 2013 1st, and 2014 1st to go from #6 to #2 to get RGIII.

In 2011, it cost the Falcons their 2011 1st (#26), 2nd (#59), and 4th (#124) and 2012 1st and 4th to go from #26 to #6 for Julio Jones.

I'm not sure that the Cowboys would have enough to offer to get me to move down that far if I were the Texans -- the top guys would be long gone by then. I'd also want more picks in this draft than future picks, because of the depth this year and because while this roster obviously has some significant holes, it's not a long-term teardown/rebuild job.

Jerry does love to be seen as a wheeler and dealer (even when it involves trading up unnecessarily) so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he where trying to make this happen.

[popanot]

Cowpies have more holes than we do. Their #1 is too far down so that would mean a top player from their current roster would have to be added in, IMO. Other than Tyron Smith, they don't have anyone else I'd want and Smith is too expensive. Maybe Dez, but we really don't need him much, and again, he's going to be expensive. No way it's the Cowpies. Probably just draft rumors and smokescreens. God I wish the draft would just get here!!!

Personally, I think Riddick's tweet is more about the Rams, Bradford, and Johnny Football. I'd give the Rams a #3 or a #4 for Bradford if he'd renogotiate.

[Arky]

Video - 2:35 mins.

Texans might pass on Clowney at 1.1

[HPF Bob]

Rick Smith says his draft board is already set. Bob McNair says the Texans still aren't sure. Who do you believe? One thing for certain is that McNair is sticking his nose in public comments regarding the draft as he has never done before. You don't suppose the boss has got Smith on a short leash now that Kubiak has been dismissed and is becoming more involved than in the past with personnel decisions?

I do think Mack probably fits the Texans 3-4 better than Clowney although, if Mario Williams can become a 3-4 OLB, certainly Clowney could. I would not be surprised if the Texans have two trade offers on the table and are waiting to see if either one sweetens the pot at the last minute for fear of missing out. One of those is almost certainly the Falcons and the other, I suspect, could be the always-baffling Raiders at #5. I have a hard time believing Houston would trade all the way down to Minnesota (#8) or the Bills (#9).

Other than Jake Matthews, Mack might be the least likely to bust as the #1 pick so there is some sense there. I still can't believe Manziel is being discussed other than for PR value of all the Aggie fans who are interested.

[nunusguy]

Charley Casserley has said the Texans did not get a single offer for their 1.1 in either the 2002 or 2006 Draft, so based upon that disclosure and even though it's now a less punitive CBA for rookies picked at the top of the Board than in past years, I'm still expecting the Texans to again use their 1.1 this year themselves. In the unlikely circumstances that they do agree to a trade, it will only be because they accept far less in exchange for their 1.1 than most everybody thinks it's worth.