Texans-Falcons Trade In The Works?

[Joshua]

I'm guessing it's Clowney or a trade down. I hope they can find a trade partner because I don't want a replay of the last 7 years where we take the physically gifted DE with questionable motor to build a defense around with the hope that if the defense is a good enough we can get get by with an average QB acquired with a 2nd round pick. Where have I heard that story before?

[Nconroe]

Isn't that what Seattle just did?

This year best player may not be a QB so what do you do? Probably not good to reach for a QB?

This site has interesting Superbowl QB history.
http://www.drafthistory.com/index.ph..._quarterbacks/

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

Isn't that what Seattle just did?

This site has interesting Superbowl QB history.
http://www.drafthistory.com/index.ph..._quarterbacks/

Sure. And somebody won the lottery this week too. Doesn't make it a high percentage plan. For one, Seattle's success makes emulating them much tougher. Manziel is the closest to Wilson in this draft, but in part because of Wilson's success, he's probably going to go in the top 5, not the 3rd round. So, can't copy them in that way. Also, I'm constantly perplexed by people who are terrified of the Texans picking a QB in the first round because they may get it wrong yet invoke Seattle. In order to follow Seattle's lead, you don't just have to get the first pick right, you need to get most picks right and find a diamond in the rough QB to boot. If you don't think the Texans can identify the best QB when they have the pick of the litter, why do you think they can do it in the 3rd round? And why do you think they are going to start landing All Pros in the 4th and 5th rounds? It wil require them doing all of this to be like Seattle.

[Joshua]

As for what i think the Texans should do, pick the QB you think has the best chance of developing into an elite QB, unless you absolutely don't think any of these guys have that potential. To me, this was part of the job O'Brien was hired for and is his first real test. With the rule changes and the way the game is evolving, the position is too important. I don't care if there are a couple other guys who are higher rated. If the QB pans out, he's worth more than them.

[HPF Bob]

So we should have taken David Carr over Julius Peppers in 2002 and Vince Young (or Matt Leinart) over Mario Williams in 2006? Great thinking.

The Texans have been here before, not once but twice. The one thing they didn't do the previous times was to trade down for more choices. That's what I'd like to see them do since even the elites seem to come with red flags.

Otherwise, how about using 1/1 for the guys with the fewest red flags - Jake Matthews or Khalil Mack?

[Nconroe]

A question might be from interviews with new coach, what type of QB might he prefer?

Seems one answer is QB must be a smart QB who can take pressure.

Perhaps Mittenberger and Bridgewater would be top two O'Brien likes.

Just a guess on my part for this discussion.

Then who of say top QB might still be available at top of second round?

Maybe these two? So no QB panic to get a good one.

Might be in third you see Garrapulo or Savage still available while speculating, also could develop .

And if draft were last week as it should we would already know.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

A question might be from interviews with new coach, what type of QB might he prefer?

Seems one answer is QB must be a smart QB who can take pressure.

Perhaps Mittenberger and Bridgewater would be top two O'Brien likes.

Just a guess on my part for this discussion.

Then who of say top QB might still be available at top of second round?

Maybe these two? So no QB panic to get a good one.

Might be in third you see Garrapulo or Savage still available while speculating, also could develop .

And if draft were last week as it should we would already know.

I agree with this post

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

So we should have taken David Carr over Julius Peppers in 2002 and Vince Young (or Matt Leinart) over Mario Williams in 2006? Great thinking.

The Texans have been here before, not once but twice. The one thing they didn't do the previous times was to trade down for more choices. That's what I'd like to see them do since even the elites seem to come with red flags.

Otherwise, how about using 1/1 for the guys with the fewest red flags - Jake Matthews or Khalil Mack?

That must be why everyone is pining for the Mario era. Despite being the better pick but at the end of the day, we had nothing to show for it. Even if you get it right, it doesn't matter if you don't have a QB. We didn't win many games as a result of taking him. In fact, you could make a pretty strong case that VY, despite being the clearly inferior player, nevertheless contributed to winning more than Mario did. That's why I think you have to try and get the QB right. It's worth the risk. You want to take a safe RT? Because last year's playoff teams were a who's who of the league's premiere RTs?

You seem to think that if you build a good enough team at all other positions, you can get by with an average QB. That worked fine in 1985. Not now.

[Nconroe]

Lots of talk right now about this tweet.

@ESPNNFL: RT @LRiddickESPN: Hearing rumblings of a potential draft day trade that could blow the top off of the draft involving the QB position.

Some think it means Cowboys trading with Texans.

But who knows.