Texans to select Clowney....

[chuck]

I would be all over this, too. Clowney may very well be the best player in the draft but I think there are too many question marks to take him first overall, certainly for the Texans to do so.

This is a deep draft and basically the only place I don't see a lot of value is at 1-1 so if someone else wants that pick and the Texans get a number of other picks in return I think it would be irresponsible not to do this.

I guess what I'm saying is that if the Texans pass on Clowney for more draft picks and Clowney goes on to be a monster I'll be fine with that. If they miss with a QB that they pick in the first or at the top of the second I'll be pissed.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by popanot

Chances are extremely high that ATL trades up for Clowney. They'll need to go to #1 to get him. Rumor is the Texans want #6, 37, a 2015 #1 and possibly a late 2014 pick. I'd do it for the first 3 in that list. Maybe we need to look our options at #6. Personally, I'd take Mack (doubt he's there tho) or Matthews at #6 and wait on QB. Bortles would be the only QB I'd take that high if QB is the choice.

That would be a great deal for us, and actually I'd accept less than that for our #1.

[HPF Bob]

I agree. Trading down makes sense so long as we don't settle for too little on the trade and we get a guy at 1-6 that was the guy we really wanted all along.

I'm okay at 1-6 with (in order) Clowney, Mack, Matthews, Robinson, Bortles and Barr. I'd really hope that somebody bites on Manziel and Watkins so we have some options.

I'd accept an offer with the Falcons for 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 1st, 2nd, 2015 1st or 1st, 2nd, 4th and 2015 2nd. Keep in mind the Falcons were the NFC version of the Texans and just had a season where everything went wrong. I'd expect them to be a .500 team next year meaning not a top-round draft choice if we go the 2015 route.

[chuck]

If one of the teams with picks 2-5 goes with a QB (which is quite probable given who the teams are) then the Texans will surely have the opportunity to draft a guy who will make an immediate impact. And I would be happy with any of the guys who'd still be there, including Watkins, who I think is going to be a monster. If he's the best player on your board then take him and let DCs figure out how to cover him, Dre and Nuke.

[popanot]

Man, I really like Mack and I think the Texans do too. If we did trade #1 for #6, #37 and a 2015 #1, I'd consider - if STL would do it - trading back up to #2 for #6 and #33 ~OR~ #37 (preferrably #37) to get Mack. That would give us Mack + a 2015 #1. Not a bad haul for moving down from #1 to #2.

[Joshua]

If I had to guess, Atlanta and Houston will work out a deal but it will be contingent on someone that Houston wants still being there when Atlanta picks. If that happens, the trade goes down.

If there is a QB that O'Brien thinks can be a franchise QB, I'm inclined to stay and No. 1 and just take him--the chance of getting one is just too important. If they are thinking Clowney at No. 1, then I would welcome a trade down.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by popanot

Man, I really like Mack and I think the Texans do too. If we did trade #1 for #6, #37 and a 2015 #1, I'd consider - if STL would do it - trading back up to #2 for #6 and #33 ~OR~ #37 (preferrably #37) to get Mack. That would give us Mack + a 2015 #1. Not a bad haul for moving down from #1 to #2.

But we can get a very good player at several different positions @ 1.6 who would help us a lot, don't need to think about trading back. For example @ 1.6 I wouldn't mind using the pick on an OT or Watkins if Mack was off of the Board. We need lots of help.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by chuck

I guess what I'm saying is that if the Texans pass on Clowney for more draft picks and Clowney goes on to be a monster I'll be fine with that. If they miss with a QB that they pick in the first or at the top of the second I'll be pissed.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you'll be pissed regardless.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by WMH

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you'll be pissed regardless.

It's funny, you know, now that Kubiak's gone I find that I have a completely different attitude about this team. I don't know whether BOB is going to be a good coach or not but I do know that he is not an idiot so we're headed in the right direction on that count at least. He seems to live in 2014 rather than the 1980's so we're headed in the right direction on that count, too.

Last year my anger turned to fascination about game five so I can't really say I've been all that worked up about anything since then. This year I really don't have a guy I hope they get nor is there anything particular I'm wound up about their doing. I'd love to see them trade down because this is a deep draft and the team needs so much but if BOB loves a guy at #1 then I love him too.

I mean, I do like being annoyed so I can always find something but in all honesty as I get older I find that my passion for professional sports dims. It helps that to me the NBA is unwatchable and that the Astros are an American League shambles. I don't feel like I'm missing too much there. I do watch a lot of futbol, though, and since my teams are always serious underdogs it doesn't freak me out nearly as much as it might when they lose in spectacular, 1992 Oilers fashion.

Now I think I'm going to go meditate under a palm tree.

[HPF Bob]

Rockets, Astros and Texans: God's way of telling Houstonians there is something more important to do in life.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by chuck

Last year my anger turned to fascination about game five so I can't really say I've been all that worked up about anything since then. This year I really don't have a guy I hope they get nor is there anything particular I'm wound up about their doing. I'd love to see them trade down because this is a deep draft and the team needs so much but if BOB loves a guy at #1 then I love him too.

Like you, I was done with the Kubiak Texans very early on last season. I'm not sure what kind of coach O'Brien will be, but see him as a guy on the edge of change, not stuck with a system that worked 15 years ago.

I'm not sold on this years draft crop of QBs, and also not sold on Clowney's fit with Crennel's defense. That said, based on current trends in the NFL, the base defense will only be played 20% of the plays, and how does an offense defend against Watt, and Clowney, plus the some of the other talent on the team. I think it will be fun to watch a defense with those two together.

I could also go for a trade down, grabbing a Mack(unlikely to be there) or Matthews at 1-6.

I wish the draft were here already. Jez.........