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Old 03-21-2014, 06:02 PM
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Not bad, Bob. Just curious about how you would utilize Clowney though. Do you see him as a Two-gap DE in the 3-4 like Richard Seymour or an OLB like Willie McGinnist in Romeo's defense?
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:02 PM
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Not bad, Bob. Just curious about how you would utilize Clowney though. Do you see him as a Two-gap DE in the 3-4 like Richard Seymour or an OLB like Willie McGinnist in Romeo's defense?
I know your question was directed to Bob, but I'm going to take a shot at it here. Notwithstanding any reported non-football issues, Clowney is a tremendous football play, not just a tremendous athlete. And he's not one-dimensional because he's strong against the run beside being a truly elite pass-rusher: he's the consensous #1 talent in this very talented Draft.
Now to your question about how would O'Brien/Crennel play him in Crennel's defense ? If O'Brien and his DC would be incapable of knowing how to figure out how to employ/apply this most talented football player in this the 2014 NFL Draft in their defense, then Bob McNair made a major mistake when he hired O'Brien to be his new HC.
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Old 03-21-2014, 09:09 PM
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The short answer is "like McGinnest". A talent like Clowney is all about creating mismatches and getting him upfield quickly to disrupt plays. Therefore, I would want him and Watt to line up all over the place - sometimes together and sometimes on opposite sides so defenses have to read both before reacting. He would be what Wade Phillips tried to do with Mario Williams but I think Clowney is better suited for it. I think Clowney and Watt will make the other even better and if a third guy (Mercilous, Reed, Cushing or a Jackson Jeffcoat I drafted in one mock) becomes a consistent rusher you've made the defense really tough for opponents.
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Old 03-21-2014, 09:55 PM
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OK, I can go with that, but I like Barr in that role. He seems as if he could also not be a fish out of water when asked on those rare occasions to drop into coverage. That's why I'm so hoping that we can trade down and pick up extra picks. If Clowney didn't have the 'work ethic' baggage, we might be able to easily find someone to trade up for him.
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Old 03-22-2014, 01:37 PM
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Guys like Barr and Mack are fine but they could also be liabilities against the run where a guy like Clowney can hold up at the point of attack in goalline packages because he has DE size to go with his OLB quickness. That's why he's a matchup headache which would give us a second one to go with Watt. Put those two on a front seven and everyone else, even Cushing, gets single coverage which means you just have to beat your man to make the play. Next you start mixing in some blitzers and you are giving the opposing team a lot of different stuff they don't have answers for.

If we pass that up for Bortles, he better be at least a Phil Simms-caliber QB or we have really screwed ourselves.
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:37 PM
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Guys like Barr and Mack are fine but they could also be liabilities against the run where a guy like Clowney can hold up at the point of attack in goalline packages because he has DE size to go with his OLB quickness. That's why he's a matchup headache which would give us a second one to go with Watt. Put those two on a front seven and everyone else, even Cushing, gets single coverage which means you just have to beat your man to make the play. Next you start mixing in some blitzers and you are giving the opposing team a lot of different stuff they don't have answers for.

If we pass that up for Bortles, he better be at least a Phil Simms-caliber QB or we have really screwed ourselves.
Clowney is such an obvious choice here especially when O'Brien can get the equivalent if not superior prospect in the second round to any of the "big 3" for his QB to groom for the future. Hey folks, just because you use a first round pick on a QB doesn't necessarily mean you get a first round QB.
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:34 AM
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The Fitzpatrick signing convinces me about 85% sure we are taking Bortles at 1-1 so, using the Fanspeak big board and adding the 6-5 pick from Oakland, I stay at 1-1 and draft this way:

1-1 Blake Bortles, QB, UCF
2-1 Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
I trade down from 3-1 and 4-1 to add extra picks in the 4th and 5th rounds:
3-7 Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford
4-10 Jack Mewhort, OT, Ohio St.
4-27 Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
5-1 Antone Exum, CB, Virginia Tech
5-13 Taylor Hart, DE, Oregon
6-1 Chris Davis, CB-KR, Auburn
6-5 Storm Johnson, RB, UCF
7-1 Jay Bromley, DT, Syracuse

Didn't do as much with the pass rush as I'd like but I'm pretty happy with my top 3 if Bortles is my decision at 1-1.
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