2014 Mock Drafts

[HPF Bob]

The old trade chart from the 1990s is probably outdated now that there's a rookie salary cap but I seriously doubt the Browns would give up #4, #26 and #35 just to move up three spots. We'll be lucky to get #4 and #26 but your choice at #35 can be eliminated from the exercise without much impact in the overall design.

Then swapping #26 for #30 and #94 is very plausible if the 49ers target someone they want. The Niners have two picks in the second and third with #94 the lowest of them.

Bortles and Tuitt would seem like wasted opportunities to me. Yankey ought to be an anchor for the line. Stork I don't see as upgrade from Jones who was just as highly praised coming out of Georgia.

I'm not expecting Christian Jones or JaWaun Jones to be there where you have us choosing them. I do like the trade down ideas and if you can talk Cleveland into giving up their top three picks, give Rick Smith a call.

[nunusguy]

Assuming we could work a deal to secure a QB like Brock Osweiler or Ryan Mallet with our 2.1, how about exchanging our 1.1 with a team sitting out of the top 5 like ATL, TB, or Minny for their first and second round picks ? OK so it's not an even-steven swap according to the DVCs, but with such a loaded Draft this year it might mean an additional starter for us.

[HPF Bob]

BTW, I looked at the trade value chart at Walter's and the 1-1 pick is worth 3000 pts, the #4 overall is 1800, the #26 overall is worth 700 and the #35 overall is worth 550. So Blitzwood's proposed trade does not seem as outlandish as I thought - 3000 pts for 3050 pts. Still, I can't imagine a real professional NFL GM would give up two #1s and a high #2 to move up three spots to 1-1 unless Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck were at 1-1 and, no Aggies, Johnny Manziel is not in the same hemisphere as either of those two.

Then again, we are talking about the Browns' front office so maybe they are crazy enough to do it.

[Blitzwood]

Don't worry Bob, I'm not the least bit offended at your first mental lapse in the last decade or so, I most often find your commentary insightful and refreshing like a South Texas fertilizer plant in mid August....

There was a trade a couple years ago between the Rams and the Redskins to move up four spots for some guy named RG3. Rookie Salary cap in play, also.

I believe the haul was:


Redskins get:
2nd-overall pick (2012)


Rams get:
2nd-overall pick (2014)
6th-overall pick (2012)
22nd-overall pick (2013)
39th-overall pick (2012)


I bet that trade was slightly over 50 points.


BTW, I like Tuitt, what don't u like about him?

[HPF Bob]

I just don't see Tuitt as the sort of impact guy I like in the first round. There are some other guys projected in the first I feel the same way about - solid but not dynamic. Then again, I wasn't a big fan of Watt coming out of college either.

See if the Browns will bite on 2 1sts and a high 2nd. I'll be happy if it works but unless they want something exclusive (i.e. Clowney), I just don't see them making that jump. RG3 was RG3. From a draftnik's perspective, he was a definite franchise quarterback.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

BTW, I looked at the trade value chart at Walter's and the 1-1 pick is worth 3000 pts, the #4 overall is 1800, the #26 overall is worth 700 and the #35 overall is worth 550. So Blitzwood's proposed trade does not seem as outlandish as I thought - 3000 pts for 3050 pts. Still, I can't imagine a real professional NFL GM would give up two #1s and a high #2 to move up three spots to 1-1 unless Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck were at 1-1 and, no Aggies, Johnny Manziel is not in the same hemisphere as either of those two.

Then again, we are talking about the Browns' front office so maybe they are crazy enough to do it.

Bob, you need to forget about all of that crap. there's no "franchise" QB in this Draft. Therefor a team like the Texans has got to really sweeten the pot to get multiple picks for its 1.1. For example, if we could get Clevelands 1.4 & 2.4 for our 1.1 I'd jump all over it even though the DVC says it's a bad deal for
us: 3000/Texans-2340(1800+540)Browns. In other words its meaningless most years unless a teams got an an Andy Luck or Peyton Manning to deal.

[HPF Bob]

I agree that we don't have a franchise QB in this draft and a trade down would likely mean less value in return. However, if a #1 and a #2 is all that is needed, you won't need the Browns. I think the Falcons may be the better trade partner because they seem to genuinely want Clowney, already have a starting QB and are thinking their awful season can be fixed with better health, better luck and a few new parts.

I'd accept the Falcons' 1-6 and 2-6 plus a 2013 2nd for our #1 spot and use the 1-6 for an offensive tackle or a blitzing LB (or Sammy Watkins if you want to get exotic). We fill a hole, add another Top 40 pick and add a second-rounder for next year while the Falcons get the DE they covet.

Some mocks have the Rams doing this deal on the premise we aren't taking Clowney but there's no reason we can't cut out the middle man and do it ourselves.

[Keith]

I feel like I'm more and more on an island in my belief that Teddy Bridgewater is a franchise QB...

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Keith

I feel like I'm more and more on an island in my belief that Teddy Bridgewater is a franchise QB...

Probably with a small population. I like Bortles in O'Brien's system and I like Gorappolo in that I could get him with a 2nd round pick (reducing my risk).

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I agree that we don't have a franchise QB in this draft and a trade down would likely mean less value in return. However, if a #1 and a #2 is all that is needed, you won't need the Browns. I think the Falcons may be the better trade partner because they seem to genuinely want Clowney, already have a starting QB and are thinking their awful season can be fixed with better health, better luck and a few new parts.

I'd accept the Falcons' 1-6 and 2-6 plus a 2013 2nd for our #1 spot and use the 1-6 for an offensive tackle or a blitzing LB (or Sammy Watkins if you want to get exotic). We fill a hole, add another Top 40 pick and add a second-rounder for next year while the Falcons get the DE they covet.

Some mocks have the Rams doing this deal on the premise we aren't taking Clowney but there's no reason we can't cut out the middle man and do it ourselves.

Who was the Falcons 2013 2nd round pick?

[HPF Bob]

D'oh! I meant 2015. Need to wake up earlier.