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Old 11-29-2013, 06:37 AM
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Clowney reminds me a bit of Warren Sapp - unmotivated pothead at Dah U who everyone knew had off-the-charts ability but he fell all the way to 14th and Tampa who never regretted it. If we can keep Clowney's head on straight, he'll be a Hall-of-Famer.
As i understand it, the knock on Clowney is whether he has a burning desire to play football. Although he had some off-the-field issues, i don't recall anyone questioning Sapp's desire once the game started.

To me, the better comparison is our last No. 1 pick--Mario Williams. Absolute physical specimen with a question mark about his motor.
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:41 AM
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As i understand it, the knock on Clowney is whether he has a burning desire to play football. Although he had some off-the-field issues, i don't recall anyone questioning Sapp's desire once the game started.

To me, the better comparison is our last No. 1 pick--Mario Williams. Absolute physical specimen with a question mark about his motor.
That's who I would compare him to. And I think the Texans became frustrated by Mario's on again off again motor. I don't see them touching Clowney because of the Mario experience.
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:52 PM
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That's who I would compare him to. And I think the Texans became frustrated by Mario's on again off again motor. I don't see them touching Clowney because of the Mario experience.
The new regime wouldn't have picked Mario. Fresh blood = Fresh decisions.
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:07 PM
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The new regime wouldn't have picked Mario. Fresh blood = Fresh decisions.
Bob McNair is the person I remember listening to, he was talking about this in an interview. And he is not going any where in the near future.

McNair also mentioned Carr as a did not love the game type. He said they have now added love of the game into the profile they use to rate players.
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Old 11-29-2013, 06:18 PM
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Mario was a very good draft pick. The rest of the top 5 was Bush, VY, D'Brickshaw Ferguson, and AJ Hawk. Mario is the best player of any of them. I would also take him over the rest of the top 10 (Vernon Davis, Michael Huff, Whitner, Ernie Sims and Matt Leinhart round out the top 10). I hope if another Mario came along we would absolutely be open to drafting him.

Mario's biggest problem is he is judged by what he could be and not against the standards of mere mortals. Sure the guy could be Reggie White good if he really cared about football, but even only caring a bit he is a very good/great player at the 2nd most important position in football.

If Clowney is another Mario type you draft him and hope you have the coaching staff to get him to play hard.
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:39 PM
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Bob McNair is the person I remember listening to, he was talking about this in an interview. And he is not going any where in the near future.

McNair also mentioned Carr as a did not love the game type. He said they have now added love of the game into the profile they use to rate players.
Was that during his Ox in a ditch speech or the one that said we're on the right track?

Just sayin......
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Old 11-30-2013, 09:58 AM
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I think ultimately we are going to regret taking Hopkins this year with our 1st round pick, and that's just among other WRs that were available in the draft this year including several receivers who went in later rounds.
Anybody else catch the Fresno - San Jose State game yesterday ? I watched Derrick Carr on a couple drives and he's an impressive passer, had excellent accuracy atleast on several short and medium length passes, didn't really watch enough of the game to see him throw it downfield. And San Jose has a slinger named David Fales who might be another interesting QB prospect.
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Old 11-30-2013, 11:43 AM
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I think ultimately we are going to regret taking Hopkins this year with our 1st round pick, and that's just among other WRs that were available in the draft this year including several receivers who went in later rounds.
Anybody else catch the Fresno - San Jose State game yesterday ? I watched Derrick Carr on a couple drives and he's an impressive passer, had excellent accuracy atleast on several short and medium length passes, didn't really watch enough of the game to see him throw it downfield. And San Jose has a slinger named David Fales who might be another interesting QB prospect.
Who do you like more than Hopkins from the later rounds?
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