Official Texans vs. Jaguars Game Thread, 11/24/2013

[Arky]

The 1-9 Jacksonville Jaguars come to Reliant this Sunday to take on the 2-8 Texans. The Jags are coming off a home loss of 27-14 to the Arizona Cardinals. The Texans are coming off a home loss of 28-23 to the Oakland Raiders.

TV = CBS (channel 11 local), Sunday, noon CST

Announcers = Bill Macatee, Steve Tasker, Steve Beuerlein (the "Z" team)

The line = Texans by 10 to 11.5

[painekiller]

I'm wondering do we really want to loose this game? If we lose out we then have the #1 pick? But who si that pick?


To me picking top 5 in this draft get us a good player but outside of Clowney and Matthews, does the guy really help us? I'm not seeing the "it" QB just yet. And can you imagine Clowney and Watt coming off the ends?

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I'm wondering do we really want to loose this game? If we lose out we then have the #1 pick? But who si that pick?


To me picking top 5 in this draft get us a good player but outside of Clowney and Matthews, does the guy really help us? I'm not seeing the "it" QB just yet. And can you imagine Clowney and Watt coming off the ends?

Unlike last year, I thought this was supposed to be a really good Draft for QBs ?
Anyway, in our remaining games we've got Denver & NE here, Indy & Tenn on the road, with 2 games vs the Jags. I think we should win the game Sunday, but have doubts about the road game in FLA especially with a short week for NFLNet game on a Thursday night. So we could easily end up 3-13.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Unlike last year, I thought this was supposed to be a really good Draft for QBs ?Anyway, in our remaining games we've got Denver & NE here, Indy & Tenn on the road, with 2 games vs the Jags. I think we should win the game Sunday, but have doubts about the road game in FLA especially with a short week for NFLNet game on a Thursday night. So we could easily end up 3-13.

I think it is. There just isn't a consenus #1 QB or even a guy who is much better at #1 than what you get at #5.

[HPF Bob]

Jacksonville will almost certainly take a QB since Gabbert has been a bust and Chad Henne is not the answer. Right now, the consensus is Bridgewater or Mariota (if he comes out) and I'm not ga-ga about either one although I think Bridgewater is the better prospect.

What scares me about Mariota is he'll be coming out of a spread offense (just like Keenum) and seems to save his worst performances for his biggest games.I think he and Manziel would both be smart to spend another year in college rather than being so hasty about turning pro.

Definitely, the QB class with Luck/Griffin/Tannehill was better than this one.

I never thought we'd be able to draft Clowney but he hasn't been helping his stock this season which might also be a red flag. I think somebody has given him some bad advice about protecting himself this season so he isn't injured for the draft and he's been half-assing all year. Dude has off-the-charts ability and he's from McNair's alma mater so we'd probably take him if he's there but I worry if he isn't a baller and gets complacent with a fat contract.

Back to the Jags, I think they are still playing hard but, without Blackmon, teams can just fill the box and stop Gary Coleman. They have some nice receiving weapons (Shorts, Lewis) but Henne probably still has nightmares from the last time he played against J.J. Swatt.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

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Back to the Jags, I think they are still playing hard but, without Blackmon, teams can just fill the box and stop Gary Coleman. They have some nice receiving weapons (Shorts, Lewis) but Henne probably still has nightmares from the last time he played against J.J. Swatt.

And I'll bet the Texans still have nightmares from their last meet-up with Henne when he took them into OT at Reliant last year.
Do we win Sunday and split with the Jags, sweep them, or do they sweep us in our upcoming games with them ? Frankly, with this season I have no clue
and none of those scenarios would surprise me in this year of 2013.

[Nconroe]

I'd like to see Keenum progress a little , less fumble turnovers, longer drives if longball not there.

[Nconroe]

Sounds like Kareem Jackson out Sunday. And Texans picked up a 3 year CB Justin Rogers off waivers from Buffalo.

[Nconroe]

Find it interesting Texans defense is still ranked no. 1 in total defense and passing defense with yds/game metric.

Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Scrm Plys Yds/G Yds/P 1st/G 3rd Md 3rd Att 3rd Pct 4th Md 4th Att 4th Pct Pen Pen Yds ToP/G FUM Lost
1 Houston Texans 10 27.6 276 579 286.1 4.9 15.9 48 134 36 2 5 40 68 510 28:33 10 4
2 Seattle Seahawks 11 16.3 179 697 293.3 4.6 19.3 56 148 38 4 9 44 60 586 31:02 22 10
3 Carolina Panthers 10 13.5 135 596 294.0 4.9 17.2 44 125 35 2 8 25 57 507 26:39 14 9
4 Cleveland Browns 10 23.8 238 689 306.5 4.4 19.2 66 155 43 3 6 50 67 571 31:04 9 5
5 New Orleans Saints 11 17.8 196 652 309.9 5.2 17.3 46 134 34 1 6 17 63 515 26:56 14 7
6 Cincinnati Bengals 11 18.7 206 745 313.1 4.6 17.8 60 168 36 3 10 30 43 479 30:01 12 8
7 San Francisco 49ers 10 17.8 178 654 323.8 5.0 18.5 50 143 35 6 12 50 60 559 30:29 17 10

[Nconroe]

And quite interesting our offense is also in top 10 overall on yds/game

Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Scrm Plys Yds/G Yds/P 1st/G 3rd Md 3rd Att 3rd Pct 4th Md 4th Att 4th Pct Pen Pen Yds ToP/G FUM Lost TO
1 Denver Broncos 10 39.8 398 717 455.5 6.4 27.1 60 125 48 4 4 100 71 614 29:38 21 13 -2
2 Green Bay Packers 10 25.8 258 657 417.4 6.4 21.7 55 130 42 4 8 50 57 552 30:58 13 5 -6
3 New Orleans Saints 11 27.7 305 739 415.0 6.2 22.9 67 148 45 4 10 40 62 509 33:04 9 5 +4
4 Detroit Lions 10 26.5 265 690 414.3 6.0 22.7 56 134 42 3 11 27 70 587 31:16 14 8 -2
5 Philadelphia Eagles 11 25.1 276 719 412.4 6.3 21.4 58 149 39 3 7 43 72 634 25:16 14 8 +4
6 Washington Redskins 10 24.6 246 710 412.1 5.8 23.7 66 143 46 3 9 33 63 550 31:60 17 6 -2
7 San Diego Chargers 10 22.8 228 655 399.4 6.1 23.8 57 123 46 3 4 75 64 512 32:51 7 5 -6
8 Houston Texans 10 19.3 193 707 378.0 5.3 20.9 51 147 35 5 12 42 71 688 33:04 14 7 -11
9 Chicago Bears 10 28.2 282 629 367.3 5.8 20.3 48 127 38 6 9 67 53 468 30:01 10 4 +10
10 Cincinnati Bengals 11 25 275 756 364.5 5.3 19.9 61 160 38 7 13 54 70 729 32:22 15 7 -2
11 New England Patriots 10 25.4 254 700 364.0 5.2 21.9 49 137 36 5 11 46 46 457 29:19 13 5 +7
12 Seattle Seahawks 11 27.8 306 673 358.5 5.9 20.0 55 139 40 4 8 50 87 815 30:39 20 9 +11
13 Indianapolis Colts 10 25.2 252 637 349.9 5.5 20.3 50 127 39 0 4 0 38 313 29:50 6 4 +4

[HPF Bob]

I call that the very definition of "snakebit". If both your offense and defense rank in the Top 10, you should at least be .500 and probably better.

[BigBull]

I think stats are overrated, and I think the Texans season proves it.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by BigBull

I think stats are overrated, and I think the Texans season proves it.

Makes me think of the year Nolan Ryan led the National League in strikeouts and earned run average but his W-L record was 8-17.

[Warren]

The -11 turnover differential (tied for 29th) helps explain it. We know all too well about the offense's pick 6s, but the defense has been particularly unopportunistic as only two teams have fewer takeaways.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Makes me think of the year Nolan Ryan led the National League in strikeouts and earned run average but his W-L record was 8-17.

He must have been snakebit.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Warren

The -11 turnover differential (tied for 29th) helps explain it. We know all too well about the offense's pick 6s, but the defense has been particularly unopportunistic as only two teams have fewer takeaways.

Ya, 2-5 record in games decided by a touchdown or less is another. The other 3 games (Ravens, 49'ers, Rams) were very large losses when Schaub was still at QB. Oddly, despite the lopsided scores, the Texans won total yards and time of possession in all three games..... Weird stuff...

Just need one guy to step up and make a play during crunch time.... So far, no takers....

Redzone problems on both sides of the ball is another......

[Arky]

Jags win the toss and will receive.

Jags return the kick to their 25 yard line. Jags ball.

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Henne sacked by Smith/Mitchell! 2nd and 17 coming up.

Screen to MJD goes for 15.

Pass to Sanders gets two yards and the 1st down.

Henne's pass to Taylor broken up, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to MJD gets 6. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Slant to Sanders goes all the way to the Texan 8 yard line. 51 yards.

Pass to Shorts goes to the 1.

Rush for no gain. 3rd and goal coming up from the 1.

Henne pressured, throws inc. Jags to go for it on 4th down....

MJD punches it in for the TD.

Jags 7, Texans 0

10:57 left in the 1st quarter.

[Arky]

Martin brings the ensuing kickoff back to the Texan 19. Texans ball.

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Tate gets caught for a loss but horsecollar tackle on the Jags. 15 yards and an auto 1st down.

Pass to Hopkins is bobbled but he hangs on for a gain of 8. 2nd and 2 coming up.

Tate gets about 4 and the 1st down at the Texan 43.

Short pass to Tate gets 4.

Tate loses 2. 3rd and 8 coming up.

Keenum is sacked for a big loss. Holding on Texans is decline. Texans will punt on 4th and 28.

Jags fair catch the punt at their 34. Jags ball.

[Arky]

MJD caught for a loss of 2. 2nd and 12 coming up.

Short pass to MJD goes for 10. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Pass to Shorts over the middle gets 16 yards and a 1st down. Ball at the Texan 42.

Flags presnap. False start Jags -5. 2nd and 15 coming up.

Deep pass to Shorts caught but out of bounds. Brings up 3rd and 15.

Short pass to MJD gets 2. Jags to punt.

Martin fair catches the punt at the Texan 17. Texans ball. 4:13 left in the 1st quarter.

[nunusguy]

JJ (our CB) really played well last week, and is off to the same kind of start today except that was a nice little push on that long-pass OOBs he got away with. Wonder if we can afford to keep him next year ?