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Old 04-24-2013, 04:30 PM
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IMO Ertz is to high. Trufant is better than Ertz, but that is just me.

Also I am not sure I can figure out who you are targeting at 27?
I'm targeting whoever is there. I can see a lot of surprises in the 1st round because of what I said about there not being much difference between 25 & 75. That's why everyone wants to trade down. Most likely, I'm guessing Ertz or Manuel would be my top prospect at @ 27
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:58 PM
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Just one more day to wait.

Roy, maybe you could say where your list might break for each round.

I agree with BPA by teams board in round 1 and 2. Best if those also fill a need or if not maybe trade down if available.

Due to player rank this year could be lots of trades and surprises.
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:23 PM
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I would take any of my top 11 in the first round & be happy
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:50 PM
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No mention of Kevin Minter from LSU?

The Texans will have to draft a LB early, 2nd or 3rd round I imagine, to plug either inside or out, depending on who is available, being that Brooks Reed offers them flexability at both inside and out.

I could see them targeting (hopefully) Jaime Collins in the 3rd since he also offers them the same type of flexibility as Brooks. Other possibilities are Kiko Alonso and Brandon Jenkins, though their position flexibility is somewhat more limited.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:59 PM
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I have Jamie Collins #16 & Cornelius Washington #17. I like Corey Lemonier #24. Also mentioned Jon Bostic, Zaviar Gooden, Sio Moore, and AJ Klein.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:37 PM
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Mike Mayock & Gil Brandt have posted their top guys. I noted some differences of opinion on a few of "My Guys"...Mayock ranked Datone Jones # 27 & Brandt ranked him #78. Darius Slay ranked #59 & #31, Jamie Collins ranked #49 & #76. Cornelius Washington ranked #54 & 117. DJ Hayden ranked #14 & #43. David Amerson #99 & #54. So those are examples of players who are evaluated much differently.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:43 AM
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I can see a lot of surprises in the 1st round because of what I said about there not being much difference between 25 & 75. That's why everyone wants to trade down.
See that confuses me ? Do you really mean everyone wants to trade down or father back because they don't see much difference between 1 & 25 ?
On another subject, wonder how many QBs are going to end up being taken in the first round ? It's almost always more that anybody expects, and this year several so-called experts are saying nobody gets picked in the first round ?
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:10 AM
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There are few blue-chip players in this draft. Joekel, Lane Johnson, Fisher, Warmack, Cooper, & Tavon Austin. The rest is anybody's guess. Jon Bostic has as much chance to be a good player as Manti Teo. Da'rick Rogers could be just as good as Cordarrelle Patterson, Tyler Bray might be as good as Geno Smith. Brandon Williams as effective as Sylvester Williams. Robert Alford or Dee Milliner. So, if you can trade down, you double your chances that at least one player pans out and you don't pay as much for your 1st pick.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:17 PM
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There are few blue-chip players in this draft. Joekel, Lane Johnson, Fisher, Warmack, Cooper, & Tavon Austin. The rest is anybody's guess. Jon Bostic has as much chance to be a good player as Manti Teo. Da'rick Rogers could be just as good as Cordarrelle Patterson, Tyler Bray might be as good as Geno Smith. Brandon Williams as effective as Sylvester Williams. Robert Alford or Dee Milliner. So, if you can trade down, you double your chances that at least one player pans out and you don't pay as much for your 1st pick.
OK then, looks like you did mean to say there not being much difference 1 to 25 and not 25 to 75 as I suspected.
But actually I don't think this years LTs are particularly talented vs their peers in recent years, whereas the 2 guards are clearly exceptional vs any year,
but as we know interior OLine is not considered high-value positions (C/G). Austin looks to be the real wild-card of this draft, and there's no telling how
high he might end up being taken, but looking more and more like top 10 ? He could be the player everybody thought Reggie Bush might be, or he could
end being just too small to take the pounding he's gonna get in the NFL.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:04 PM
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OK then, looks like you did mean to say there not being much difference 1 to 25 and not 25 to 75 as I suspected.
But actually I don't think this years LTs are particularly talented vs their peers in recent years, whereas the 2 guards are clearly exceptional vs any year,
but as we know interior OLine is not considered high-value positions (C/G). Austin looks to be the real wild-card of this draft, and there's no telling how
high he might end up being taken, but looking more and more like top 10 ? He could be the player everybody thought Reggie Bush might be, or he could
end being just too small to take the pounding he's gonna get in the NFL.
I meant there's not much difference between #25 & # 75. This draft is deep, but the talent is not great.

Could see Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Matt Barkley, Ryan Nasib, & Mike Glennon all being overdrafted in the 1st rund. Considering Ponder, Locker, & Tebow were 1st round picks.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:28 AM
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I'm targeting whoever is there. I can see a lot of surprises in the 1st round because of what I said about there not being much difference between 25 & 75. That's why everyone wants to trade down. Most likely, I'm guessing Ertz or Manuel would be my top prospect at @ 27
I would not mind Manuel at all.
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