How Tight is the QB Leash? Or is Schaub Just Too Conservative?

barrett · #1 01-15-2013, 12:29 PM

Yates should not get a shot. He has never shown anything to merit a chance to start. You don't offer a job to a completely unqualified applicant because you don't like the current guy's performance. Did you watch Yates in the preseason this year? John beck was better. If we cut Yates does anyone think another team would give him a chance to start?

There are many cheap veteran FAs we could sign who are way more qualified and talented if we want a QB competition.

popanot · #2 01-15-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

There are many cheap veteran FAs we could sign who are way more qualified and talented if we want a QB competition.

Amen! Then lets get one of those guys!! I'm only tossing Yates out there because 1)he's under contract and on our team, 2)at least he's familiar with the system, and 3)Kubiak and Smith hand picked this guy last year. I don't care who it is, really. Bring in someone who can push or compete with Schaub.

popanot · #3 01-15-2013, 12:57 PM

Just to be clear, I understand we're likely stuck with Schaub for at least 1 year if not 2 years. I get it. However, that dosen't mean I like it or think that Texans management should just sit on their behinds expecting big things from him. Seattle made a tough decision sitting the guy they just paid millions to. They let another QB compete and it paid off. Obviously Wilson turned out to be special and there's no guarantee the Texans find that guy, but with Kubiak and this thinking they're tied into starting Schaub because of his salary, well then they're paralyzed and we'll likely never find out while they burn through the current talent and chances they do have. If the Texans true goal is to win a SB, they shouldn't give a flying flip if Schaub's a high-priced bench warmer for 2 years.

Keith · #4 01-15-2013, 01:41 PM

Well, something to keep in mind is these guys are human beings. After Kubiak left Denver, the Broncos were getting tired of annual playoff appearances going nowhere with Jake Plummer. So Shanahan used a first round pick on Jay Cutler with Plummer still on the roster. Plummer was then benched with a 7-4 record, grew a beard and retired from football that offseason. Oh, and the Broncos began to really suck from that point and once Shanahan was gone, they hired someone else who really accelerated the downward spiral.

So asking the Texans to jumpstart Phase One of the "Replace Schaub" operation isn't going to help the team win more games in 2013 or go any deeper in the playoffs in 2013. And I am specific to 2013 because this team's window to win a Super Bowl is RIGHT NOW.

They have the other key pieces in place. Short of getting lightning to strike like it did in 2012 with all these rookie QBs, only bringing in someone like very experienced like the Broncos did with Manning would seem to enhance the team's chances in 2013. And there isn't another Manning available this offseason (no, it's not Alex Smith).

I think the 49ers are incredibly lucky that their midseason QB switch has gone as well as it had. Usually a team with 2 QBs is said to be a team that doesn't have one at all. Bringing in Schaub's 2014 or 2015 replacement in 2013 will only divide the locker room and drive us all nuts. They'd have to do like what the Oilers did with Steve McNair and just flat out be committed to Schaub in 2013, keeping an early draft pick like that on the bench. Nobody does that anymore for good reason... it's expensive for one thing. Oh, and apparently there isn't a strong QB prospect in this draft anyway.

WMH · #5 01-15-2013, 02:05 PM

Playoff Schaub > Playoff Peyton

We could do alot worse.

Comp Att Pct Att/G Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ Sck Rate
Manning 28 43 65.1 43 6.7 290 3 2 15 34.9 32 2 3 88.3
Schaub 63 89 70.8 44.5 6.8 302.5 2 2 32 36 28 8 1 87.5

Joshua · #6 01-15-2013, 02:26 PM

I can't believe I'm actually about to say this, but of all the guys who we could realistically go after this offseason (and I'm using realistically pretty liberally as the Texans clearly are going with Schaub and this is all just messageboard fodder), the guy I would be most curious about is Vick. Get him and Schaub back together and let them compete. Vick had absolutely no chance last year with the horrid O-line the Eagles threw out there and pretty much the whole team started mailing it in around mid-October. Plus, after watching RGIII in Washington, the thought of Vick running the bootlegs for us sounds pretty good. If nothing more than a change of pace from watching Schaub lumber around.

barrett · #7 01-15-2013, 04:44 PM

The time to cut ties was last year when Manning was available (and reports had him interested in coming). We have a far better roster, and believe it or not far better coaching.

Now we are in a spot where the best available veteran QBs are not an upgrade.

So that leaves the draft as a means of improvement, and I cannot see a coach whose job relies on going deep in the playoffs hitching his wagon to a rookie QB. Especially not in a year where nobody is excited about any of the QBs, let alone the ones available in the late 1st/middle rounds.

It will almost certainly be Schaub again for this year (and likely for as long as Kubiak is here). We would have been better off with a home loss to Cincy that MIGHT have prompted change.

nunusguy · #8 01-15-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua

I can't believe I'm actually about to say this, but of all the guys who we could realistically go after this offseason (and I'm using realistically pretty liberally as the Texans clearly are going with Schaub and this is all just messageboard fodder), the guy I would be most curious about is Vick. Get him and Schaub back together and let them compete. Vick had absolutely no chance last year with the horrid O-line the Eagles threw out there and pretty much the whole team started mailing it in around mid-October. Plus, after watching RGIII in Washington, the thought of Vick running the bootlegs for us sounds pretty good. If nothing more than a change of pace from watching Schaub lumber around.

Vick is intriguing: he can throw the ball vertically and certainly has the mobility to put some real teeth in those bootlegs compared to Schaub's boots which are just kinda amusing because they represent such an empty threat.
But in spite of Schaub's interception, I don't think he played that badly Sunday and could have beat the Pats with last years team. Without Brisiel, Winston, and Dresseen in the lineup the Texans field a much less formidable rushing attack.