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Old 01-13-2013, 07:51 PM
Joshua Joshua is offline
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Posey tore his Achilles. That's not good. Would guess he's back for TC though.

Interesting to see most of you pin this on Schaub. He's not Brady, Manning, Rodgers, or Brees. Never has been, never will be.

The D gave up 41 points tonight. Even the top 5 would struggle to win with that.

BTW, Boston is a great city, and Foxboro is an awesome place to watch a game.
Schaub played a pretty good first half and the offensive troubles were primarily the result of drops and an inability to run the ball.

Second half was another story. He managed to evade the rush for one of the few times i can remember and then inexplicably just threw the ball away. On 3rd down no less. Then he sacked himself after fumbling and threw the pick. Finally, he continued to dink and dunk despite being down by 3 scores.

Having said that, you're right. Schaub wasn't singularly bad. However, i think what is setting in for a lot of people is that Schaub has to have everything go right to succeed and that's just not going to happen in the playoffs. At least for me, it's the realization of something I've known for a while but didn't want to face.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:07 PM
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...it's the realization of something I've known for a while but didn't want to face.
I'm not so sure I've known it until this year. I always thought that he was good enough to get the team to the big game but that seems to be out the window.

It's a lot clearer to me this year I guess because of the success of all of the (much) more mobile quarterbacks we've all seen come to the forefront this year.

He doesn't really have the arm to be a traditional pocket passer and he cannot, does not, ever, EVER, extend a play on his own.

Bob's right, nice work, Arky.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:31 PM
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Yeah, super work Arky

Really appreciate your game logs.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:19 PM
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Texans better give Yates a shot at competing for the starting job or bring in someone who can or the fans are going to go nuts. No way anyone has confidence in Schaub now. I'd even suspect some players and coaches have lost confidence in him at this point. I'd rather see Yates screw up and have some hope of improvment than see Schaub screw up and regress. I swear you can see that guy crumbling when the pressure gets tight. You can see it in his face and body language.

I hope McNair and Smith have a long talk to Kubiak about his "hurry-up" offense. We've seen time and time again Kubiak has no clue when to run it and we're the only winning team in the league that can't execute it. What an embarassment.

This team needs a speed upgrade all over the place - offense and defense. Kubiak not only runs the offense at a snails pace, but there is no speed at the skill postitions. It's hard to get on Schaub for not hitting anyone deep when no one can get deep and also beat his man.

The defense wasn't much better than the offense. No way should they get a pass in this game. They really didn't stop anything and didn't force any turnovers. You're not going to win a playoff game like that. Their constant inability to get lined up against a known quick-pace team (the same one they just played a few weeks ago) is inexcusable. I'm totally disappointed in Wade in that regard.

No way do I pay Barwin, goodbye and good riddance James, hoping Keo and Harris follow you.

One fear I have is Manning's big night returning kicks may have saved Marciano. Amazing...

Unfortunately, and despite going 12-4, with Schaub at the helm and with this team's collapse, no one will take them seriously next year.

And, yes, thanks a bunch Arky!!
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:40 PM
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One fear I have is Manning's big night returning kicks may have saved Marciano. Amazing...
I doubt he was going anywhere regardless but now we know for sure.

Marciano is not the guy out there punting but Donnie Jones had an unusually bad game.

I was listening to a discussion earlier and the consensus was that the only facet of the Texans that improved this year over last was the defensive line. Each and every other facet regressed. IF the defensive line improved (and I'm not sure that it did) it was 95% because of JJ's getting better. The remaining regression across the board is a serious indictment of the organization as a whole.

The owner, of course, will see this differently. Which is why I no longer donate to him my money.
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Old 01-14-2013, 02:07 AM
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Ya, thanks for the thanks. Logging the weekly games here gives me something to do with gameday anxiety....

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Dang, several hours later and I'm still a bit flummoxed..... That was a winnable game. In baseball terms, it's like we're a bunch of singles hitters. Get men on base (dink and dunk) and keep the lineup moving (time of possession). Trouble is, when we run into a good pitcher (QB), we don't get on base as much and can't keep up and I find myself craving the occasional 3-run homer (ala Flacco/Ravens/deep ball), All. The. Time.....

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The thing about Schaub, aka "Matty Nice" , is you look at the stat line and it says he went 34 for 51, 66.6% completion, 343 yard, 2 TD's, 1 INT and you think that is a pretty good stat line. Definitely a case where the stats don't tell the full story. One can get fooled into thinking the accuracy is OK. On some of the incompletions, you wonder how he missed the receiver - on short passes even. A certain amount of throwaways per game will occur - this is normal and as we learned with Carr, advisable. Still, if he were more accurate, I'm thinking he should be connecting at a 70-80% rate in this system. In his defense, it does not help when the receivers drop balls... but I'm not so sure he can "make all the throws" anymore..... Maybe something was discovered today on the 2 pt conversion.... throw the ball up high and let your beasty receiver fight for it...

One of the NFLN guys just mentioned "Romo" when Schaub threw the INT and I can't disagree....

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So, we're picking 26th? 27th?
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:00 AM
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Yes, I think the Texans pick 27th.

Arky, not sure why you are flummoxed... looks like you nailed it. A good QB can pick apart the blitz. The Pats O-line did a nice job keeping Brady upright. Perhaps as much as any team in the league, the Patriots are just a tough matchup for the Texans' schemes.

Can't take away the QB since he is the game's most critical player, but the Texans seem to have better overall talent than the Patriots minus the combo of QB+coaching. It is a decisive advantage for the other guys.

Have to question the coverage decision on Wes Welker, especially in the first half. Way too much Brandon Harris and not enough of either Kareem Jackson or Johnathan Joseph. And the other coaching flaws exposed in this game - namely hurry-up offense and redzone efficiency - have been discussed.

Special teams weren't nearly the problem they could have been, aside from a poor punt at one point, but "saving" Daniel Manning for kickoff returns in the playoffs makes me wonder. The Texans obviously lack depth at safety (hello Shiloh Keo!), but it is not like Manning played a phenomenal season this year, either. If he is the best KOR on the roster, I don't think I would have waited until the playoffs to take the bubble wrap off of him. Getting him returns in any (and really all) of those Decemeber regular season games, at least until homefield was secured, might have been helpful.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:03 AM
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Baltimore had a worse record and if they somehow made it to the Super Bowl, their draft position would move down to 31st or 32nd which would cause Houston to move up one.

The mistake is that the tiebreaker for playoffs is different than the tiebreaker for draft order. IIRC, the weaker your opponent's record, the stronger your draft position and I don't know how we match up with other 12-4 teams.

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