2013 Mocks and Needs

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Buckner is the former Longhorn that had some problems one spring and was dropped/transferred. Big target. Not elite speed. Average hands. He's a matchup problem for most college DBs but I'm not sure he would be anything special in the NFL.

And a flyer in the 6th round by a team that will not be very easy for anyone to make if they are picked after the 4th round. His crime was a criminal trespass in College Station, as you stated he went to UT, he was suspended by the longhorns and he transferred, sat out in Arizona, his red shirt year he was voted Scout team player of the year by his teammates, so he stayed in football and worked hard to put an incident behind him.

Honey Badger has been suspended by his team, could have transferred, choose not to, re-enrolled at LSU, then was arrested again for having high grade weed in his apartment. He has been away from football, and has continued a pattern of trouble with weed, and the law. Being a junior he can not play in any of the scout games after the season.

[HPF Bob]

Understood the difference between a third-rounder and a sixth rounder. It's just that Mathieu would be a first-rounder without the red flags and Buckner might be a fourth-rounder without the red flags. Lower risk but lower reward.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Understood the difference between a third-rounder and a sixth rounder. It's just that Mathieu would be a first-rounder without the red flags and Buckner might be a fourth-rounder without the red flags. Lower risk but lower reward.

I agree, in fact Mathieu could have been a top 15 pick, his height is not ideal, and he could not stop his demons. I am having PacMan flashes with him. If he can stay under control he could be a huge steal. But that is a big if.

[HPF Bob]

I'm not disagreeing. A team that has good depth and the team has a few strong leaders that can keep a young player in line, can take that chance in the third round. I compare it to when Denver drafted Maurice Clarett. If you can accept that you might have just drafted a bust, you can take the gamble. Clarett did become a bust but he might also have been great.

[painekiller]

Found another top 200 draft stock list: National Football Post

Using their rankings I could see the Texans having a draft like the following

1 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6'2" 201
2 Shayne Skove ILB Stanford 6'1" 245
3a Bacarri Rambo FS Georgia 6' 206
3b Blidi Wrey-Wilson CB UConn 6' 190
4 John Jenkins NT Georgia 6'4" 363
5a Joseph Fauria TE UCLA 6'6" 255
5b La'Veon Bell RB Michigan St 6'2" 245

This would be a huge draft IMO. Williams is a solid 2 and a future 1, would give us a great young pair(added to Posey) of WR to help lengthen AJ career. Skove is a prototype for 3-4 ILB. Rambo is ball hawk, Wrey-Wilson is a raw prospect who has solid man coverage skills. Jenkins is a top 50 player shocked they have him this low, but he gives the Texans a presence in the middle like they have never had. Fauria has soft hands, is a huge target for the red zone, and a willing blocker. Bell is a power back who could be special with some coaching.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Found another top 200 draft stock list: National Football Post

Using their rankings I could see the Texans having a draft like the following

1 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6'2" 201
2 Shayne Skove ILB Stanford 6'1" 245
3a Bacarri Rambo FS Georgia 6' 206
3b Blidi Wrey-Wilson CB UConn 6' 190
4 John Jenkins NT Georgia 6'4" 363
5a Joseph Fauria TE UCLA 6'6" 255
5b La'Veon Bell RB Michigan St 6'2" 245

This would be a huge draft IMO. Williams is a solid 2 and a future 1, would give us a great young pair(added to Posey) of WR to help lengthen AJ career. Skove is a prototype for 3-4 ILB. Rambo is ball hawk, Wrey-Wilson is a raw prospect who has solid man coverage skills. Jenkins is a top 50 player shocked they have him this low, but he gives the Texans a presence in the middle like they have never had. Fauria has soft hands, is a huge target for the red zone, and a willing blocker. Bell is a power back who could be special with some coaching.

Good looking Draft there PK, except where's your RT ? Most everybody has us taking a tackle prospect in the first or second round to play on the right side.

[HPF Bob]

This doesn't seem too realistic. Bell, in particular, shouldn't last until the fifth. He's a workhorse and a load although I think he's a step slow for the NFL, some of these guys still make it work.