Where is Barwin?

[WMH]

As we have seen, you can't keep everyone. If Barwin isn't going to produce, I'd just assume re-up Cush and Quin.

[HPF Bob]

We've gone up against three below-average offenses (thankfully two in our own division who we'll meet again) so the defense is playing well but I want to see them tested first by a real offensive juggernaut like the Packers or Patriots before I want to give them full props as the best defense in the league.

I'm really not worried that Barwin is off to a slow start because the rest of the defense is doing well. Perhaps when some of the other guys wear down, Barwin will be fresh enough to go on a tear, so it's all good.

Now, if we're in Week 10 and he's still producing the same, it might be cause for concern. It should be noted that Barwin is a converted TE that was still learning defense when we drafted him and now he's had two position shifts so there may still be some technique stuff he has to work on, much like Mercilus.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

We've gone up against three below-average offenses (thankfully two in our own division who we'll meet again) so the defense is playing well but I want to see them tested first by a real offensive juggernaut like the Packers or Patriots before I want to give them full props as the best defense in the league.

I'm really not worried that Barwin is off to a slow start because the rest of the defense is doing well. Perhaps when some of the other guys wear down, Barwin will be fresh enough to go on a tear, so it's all good.

Now, if we're in Week 10 and he's still producing the same, it might be cause for concern. It should be noted that Barwin is a converted TE that was still learning defense when we drafted him and now he's had two position shifts so there may still be some technique stuff he has to work on, much like Mercilus.

So after they prove they are a top defense in the league (for the 2nd straight year) you'll go out on a limb and say they are a top defense in the league?

[idymoe]

I have a problem with the Texans' defense. They are not scoring enough points!

[Nconroe]

[QUOTE=idymoe;31741]I have a problem with the Texans' defense. They are not scoring enough points![/QUOTE]

It may be a problem but not the problem or is it . I think its because our offense posseses the ball too long not giving the other teams offense enough time to make more mistakes.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by barrett

So after they prove they are a top defense in the league (for the 2nd straight year) you'll go out on a limb and say they are a top defense in the league?

Go back and re-read my post. There's a difference between the words "the" and "a".

"The" is the definitive article as in "the best defense in the league".

You substituted "the" for "a" as in "one of several". I wasn't debating whether the Texans had "a" top defense in the league, I was debating whether they had "the" top defense in the league, which is an open question when the season is only four weeks old and three of the teams they've played were not very good offensively, featuring young quarterbacks with weak supporting casts.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Go back and re-read my post. There's a difference between the words "the" and "a".

"The" is the definitive article as in "the best defense in the league".

You substituted "the" for "a" as in "one of several". I wasn't debating whether the Texans had "a" top defense in the league, I was debating whether they had "the" top defense in the league, which is an open question when the season is only four weeks old and three of the teams they've played were not very good offensively, featuring young quarterbacks with weak supporting casts.

You're right Bob, I slightly changed your argument with that word change. Your statement was fair, it just wasn't much more than saying "I'll wait and see and then make a claim only when there is irrefutable proof." Declaring any defense (texans, 49ers, cardinals, etc...) the best right now would be a guess. Declaring one best after the season would be reading the stat sheet.

[nunusguy]

I actually think Barwins "double-digit" sack year in 2011 was a bit of a fluke because he got 4 sacks in a single game against a rookie who was also probably the most inept QB in the entire NFL last year.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by barrett

You're right Bob, I slightly changed your argument with that word change. Your statement was fair, it just wasn't much more than saying "I'll wait and see and then make a claim only when there is irrefutable proof." Declaring any defense (texans, 49ers, cardinals, etc...) the best right now would be a guess. Declaring one best after the season would be reading the stat sheet.

I took one of those personality quizzes yesterday and it said one of my "strengths" was being able to coldly analyze statements and weigh their veracity. It can be seen (particularly on the internet) as being hypercritical when, in reality, it is the personality that examines for every possible flaw before proceeding with a plan. I'm the guy that splashes the cold water of reality on other's wild-eyed optimism.

I guess I should have been a QA tester.

[Nconroe]

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