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Old 04-05-2012, 05:27 PM
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Why is Arian Foster better than Chris Ogbanaya? Both were UDFAs...
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:00 PM
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I'm just giving Bob a hard time.

As for Jean, he was an UDFA for a reason just like Maehl. He may blossom, but I would not hold my breath waiting for it. Especially on this team. Our #4 barely sees the field and our #2/#3 barely see the ball. Not a lot of room to break in as a WR when you run it 35 times and you target your RB and TE more than your 2nd-4th WRs (155 combined for OD and Arian, 137 for Walter, JJ, B. Johnston).

As for Foster and Ogbonoya, only one of those guys were undrafted.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:09 PM
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Some slightly dated news:

Texans re-sign Demps to bolster depth at safety spot

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The Texans added depth at safety on Thursday when they re-signed Quintin Demps.

Demps, entering his fifth season, received a one-year deal for $700,000.

Demps played well off the bench last season. He went to camp with the Texans but was waived in the last roster reduction. He was re-signed early in the season because of injuries. Demps played so well as a reserve that coach Gary Kubiak apologized for cutting him in the first place.

Demps, who also is a good special teams player, joins Troy Nolan as quality depth behind starter Danieal Manning.

Safety isn’t a priority in the draft. Glover Quin is the starting strong safety. Shiloh Keo, entering his second season, backs up Quin.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:58 PM
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I'm just giving Bob a hard time.

As for Jean, he was an UDFA for a reason just like Maehl. He may blossom, but I would not hold my breath waiting for it. Especially on this team. Our #4 barely sees the field and our #2/#3 barely see the ball. Not a lot of room to break in as a WR when you run it 35 times and you target your RB and TE more than your 2nd-4th WRs (155 combined for OD and Arian, 137 for Walter, JJ, B. Johnston).

As for Foster and Ogbonoya, only one of those guys were undrafted.
That might have been true last year because they still had Dreeson, and Arian was running the heck out of the football. This year the defenses are going to look at a lot of tape, and are probably going to be harder to run against. Not saying Arian won't get his numbers, only that they will be harder to come by. We may have to rely on the 3rd & 4th WR because of that.

As for Jean and Maehl, if one of them can return a punt, or if they can imcrease the WR production, then I say let J.J. go. I think both guys have potential, but we will just have to wait to see how the Draft, OTAs, and TC go.
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:20 PM
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That might have been true last year because they still had Dreeson, and Arian was running the heck out of the football. This year the defenses are going to look at a lot of tape, and are probably going to be harder to run against. Not saying Arian won't get his numbers, only that they will be harder to come by. We may have to rely on the 3rd & 4th WR because of that.

As for Jean and Maehl, if one of them can return a punt, or if they can imcrease the WR production, then I say let J.J. go. I think both guys have potential, but we will just have to wait to see how the Draft, OTAs, and TC go.
The target numbers I listed did not include Dreesen (or Casey).

Arian had just as big a year two years ago and nobody came up with a way to stop him last year. When it comes to our running game, there is nothing to figure out. Kubiak/Shanahan have been doing this for 25 years and nobody has figured it out yet. We aren't talking about a wildcat gimmick, we are talking about a team that lines up and runs it at you. We are the most successful team in the NFL at running against 8 man fronts the last two years. As long as Arian is healthy he is going to run on teams. There is nothing on tape to look at and adjust to that has not been done before.

As for needing our 3/4 WR more, it can't hurt. But Foster and OD are clearly the 2/3 option on this team, and they are very dangerous.

So for Jean to have a breakout year he will have to leapfrog Walter, JJ (if he's around), and anybody we draft. And then take targets away from 2 clearly better players (Foster and OD). All this on a run first team that values blocking from their WRs as much as catching. I am not holding my breath.

It is a very different situation than Foster needing to take carries from broken necked Slaton and Ron Dayne.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:45 AM
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I'm just giving Bob a hard time.
It's so easy it's almost not any fun, is it?
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