Manning - Let's go all in! On 2nd thought... I'm torn...

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by WMH

Manning to the Broncos.

I thought it was a mistake to draft Tebow and I think it is a mistake to sign Manning. The Broncos are now going to sign a ton of vets to put around Manning with a "must win" attitude for the next four years to win a Super Bowl which will probably fail and then leave the team with a old, expensive team in 2017 that will have to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Early rumors are that the Patriots are going to be the ones to trade for Tebow (McDaniels is back on their staff and Tebow's security blanket at Florida, Aaron Hernandez, is on the roster) but is backing up Brady going to be any easier than backing up Manning in Denver? Some Bronco fans are thinking of a straight-up Tebow-for-Ryan-Mallett deal.

[nunusguy]

Alright, glad we don't have that sukker in our division anymore ! But I'm surprised, I was really afraid the Budster would snag Manning ?
The very least the Broncos get out of this is bragging rights about having not one, but both of the 2 greatest QBs to ever play the game on their team at one time or another IMO.

[HPF Bob]

LMAO at Shannon Sharpe:

"I guess Tebowing really works! You pray to God and He gives you Peyton Manning."

[popanot]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Some Bronco fans are thinking of a straight-up Tebow-for-Ryan-Mallett deal.

It would be silly for the Pats to do that deal. For one, I'd be shocked if Belichick would want the Tebow circus to come to town at all, and second, they could get far more in return for Mallett than a questionable QB/TE/RB (whatever the hell they'd use him for). I'd be willing to bet there are a few teams out there willing to give up a #2 for Mallett. I suspect CLE and MIA would in a heartbeat. Maybe if Denver threw in pick as well...

[barrett]

Originally Posted by popanot

It would be silly for the Pats to do that deal. For one, I'd be shocked if Belichick would want the Tebow circus to come to town at all, and second, they could get far more in return for Mallett than a questionable QB/TE/RB (whatever the hell they'd use him for). I'd be willing to bet there are a few teams out there willing to give up a #2 for Mallett. I suspect CLE and MIA would in a heartbeat.

Bellachik loved Tebow the year he came out. He said he wanted him and was suprised by Denver going for him in the 1st.

The problem is TT would have to be willing to give up his starting QB dreams for at least a half decade while becoming a situational player/TE/RB/whatever else Bellachik/McDaniels come up with for however many plays per game. Not sure Tebow will be open to that after the "success" of last season.

[Keith]

The best part in all of this is how Peyton screwed over Bud's entire offseason. No Peyton, no Mario, no Myers...

I can't imagine what the Broncos' fans must be going through... probably something akin to the VY pre-draft brouhaha we Texans fans suffered through. Tebow is a polarizing figure who is much loved by the "faithful".

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Keith

The best part in all of this is how Bud screwed over the Titans' entire offseason. No Peyton, no Mario, no Myers...

Fixed it for you

[HPF Bob]

Some Denver fans are thrilled at the idea that Tebow fanboys might leave town now but then others reminded them that now they'll be replaced by Peyton fanboys.

Same circus. Different clowns.

"Cut that meat! Cut that meat!"

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Some Denver fans are thrilled at the idea that Tebow fanboys might leave town now but then others reminded them that now they'll be replaced by Peyton fanboys.

Same circus. Different clowns.

"Cut that meat! Cut that meat!"

I hope the Jags work out a deal for Tebow.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Warren

Fixed it for you

Not only was there talk that Bud wanted him and his front office didn't, but he also put out a media ultimatum of sorts by saying "There is no reason our front office guys can't get him." So he managed to screw over both his QBs (which really means he has none), his new front office, and there FA plans all because he wanted a new toy.

And Jim Harbaugh did the same thing in SF. I wonder if all of those SF guys will run through walls for him after he declared his support for Smith publicly and then privately became the "mystery" team going after Manning. I also wonder how it affects the confidence of the no confidence QB that he managed to prop up with good coaching last year.

Way to go Peyton. You haven't played a snap in a year and a half and you are already shredding the competition.

[Nconroe]

[QUOTE=barrett;29754]Not only was there talk that Bud wanted him and his front office didn't, but he also put out a media ultimatum of sorts by saying "There is no reason our front office guys can't get him." So he managed to screw over both his QBs (which really means he has none), his new front office, and there FA plans all because he wanted a new toy/QUOTE]

Couldn't a happened to a niicer guy. Wonder how good Peyton will actually produce on a new team with a new surrounding cast.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by barrett

Bellachik loved Tebow the year he came out. He said he wanted him and was suprised by Denver going for him in the 1st.

The problem is TT would have to be willing to give up his starting QB dreams for at least a half decade while becoming a situational player/TE/RB/whatever else Bellachik/McDaniels come up with for however many plays per game. Not sure Tebow will be open to that after the "success" of last season.

That was before they drafted Mallett, and before Gronk and Hernandez became one of the best TE combo's in the league. Plus, he's had a year to see what TT and the Tebowmaniacs are all about. Not saying it won't happen or no way he lands there, just saying it's highly unlikely, and a TT straight up for Mallett trade doesn't make much sense to me. They could probably get a #2 or high #3 for Mallett and aquire TT for as low as a #5 or #6.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by popanot

That was before they drafted Mallett, and before Gronk and Hernandez became one of the best TE combo's in the league. Plus, he's had a year to see what TT and the Tebowmaniacs are all about. Not saying it won't happen or no way he lands there, just saying it's highly unlikely, and a TT straight up for Mallett trade doesn't make much sense to me. They could probably get a #2 or high #3 for Mallett and aquire TT for as low as a #5 or #6.

First, I think Mallett is worth less and Tebow more than what you are suggesting. Mallett has done nothing since he was a low 3rd other than play preseason football. He is still very unathletic and a head case just like before the draft last year. Not to mention about a dozen struggling franchises would throw a mid round pick at Tebow just in the name of excitement.

But for NE, Tebow interest might make sense.

1. They showed prior interest and just added the guy who valued TT even more than them.
2. Belachik would not be scared off by fan sentiments. He does whatever he wants and has no accountability to his fan base at this point. Not to mention no NE fan would ask for him to play anytime in the next 5+ years.
3. The arrogance of Belachik/McDaniels matches up with what a coach would have to think of his coaching skills in order to think he could teach Tebow how to play QB,
4. The creative appeal in having a piece like that and figuring out how to use it.
5. Plus Belachik LOVES players with roster flexibility. He regularly deactivates good players who don't fit the week's gameplan (even starters). To not have to carry a 2nd QB would be very appealing.
6. If they did want him Mallett is gone anyways.

I am not saying it happens, but the deal makes a certain sense in both directions.

[WMH]

5 years, $96MM.

So much for that incentive laden contract the talking heads were talking about initially....

Broncos fans better hope he is healthy.

Edit....maybe he did give them an out.
Year 1 $18mm gtd.
Yes 2 and 3 gtd. at $20mm per IF he passes a physical after next season.
Haven't seen any particulars on the balance.