Second Cut to 53 [Plus Practice Squad, Signed McClover]

[Arky]

Here's a good link to all the cuts from all the teams (snagged from Manfull's blog):

http://www.theredzone.org/2008/finalcuts/index.asp

[Keith]

One spot to go on the practice squad... nice to see Darius make it through.

LB Kevin Coley
WR Darnell Jenkins
DT Gabe Long
DE Jesse Nading
CB Derrick Roberson
WR Mark Simmons
RB Darius Walker

Plus from ESPN.com

The Houston Texans claimed defensive end Stanley McClover off waivers, releasing tackle Cliff Washburn. McClover had 12 tackles and a sack for Carolina last year. He was a seventh-round draft pick out of Auburn in 2006.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcsouth/...ice-squad.html

[bono]

any scouting report on McClover?

[Rum Runner]

Where did Moffit end up? I kinda liked what he did...

[painekiller]

They have to be deciding on a QB for the PS, don't they? If Schaub goes down on week 5, where are they? Same as last year.

If they do not sign Brink then they wasted a pick that should hace been Aldridge. At least he is getting paid real player money right now.

I don't think they would sign Simms at QB and no other WCO guys that jump at me as being better then the guys we cut.

Plus 3 RBs, with one being a glass waiting to break is a questionable move.

When I look at other teams, no one carries only 3 Rbs. Guys miss to many games, so they need #'s.

Also a RB I liked as a guy to watch is available BenJarvus Green-Ellis, he would be worth a PC spot to me.

Also Noah Herron had a good preseason for GB, he should be looked at.

[Bigtinylittle]

Simms is an interesting case. His problem is that, like Carr, he is just not football smart. I watched him last week and he was making the same mistakes he made as a rookie. I hate to use the word choker because I think it is way overused, but I think that's exactly what Simms is. With his good size, decent mobility, strong arm, and excellent accuracy, he should be one of the top QBs in the NFL. But as soon as the ball is hiked, he seems to go into a brain freeze.

I guess I wouldn't mind him as an emergency if we lost Schaub and Rosenfels, but I don't think he will ever work out his problems. Guys like him are just as likely to get worse as they are to get better. Look at Carr.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Bigtinylittle

Guys like him are just as likely to get worse as they are to get better. Look at Carr.

Don't look now, but word is that Carr actually nailed down the QB backup
spot behind Manning in NY.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by bono

any scouting report on McClover?

Pass rushing specialist. Showed some glimpses at Auburn, playing two seasons and registering 7.5 and 8 sacks in each. Someone who probably should have stayed at Auburn another year, but he was a partial qualifier out of high school, so maybe the college scene just wasn't for him. I'm pretty sure he regrets the decision.

It's a signing with upside, and considering how the Texans are desperate for a situational pass rusher, I like this move. The Panthers only invested a seventh rounder in McClover (2006), and I guess they grew tired of waiting for him to develop, not sure.

[Bigtinylittle]

I actually think that David could still do a fairly good job on a team which has good protection and a solid running game. He can operate pretty well in the short passing game. It's when he has to hold on to the ball long enough for long routes to develop that he starts melting down. If there is any kind of rush at all, he completely loses his downfield focus. Then bad things start to happen.

David actually had a fairly decent season about four years ago or so. If I remember correctly, we had a pretty solid running game that year. I've never seen Simms look like he could play well enough to come close to that performance. In all my years watching football, I don't think I've ever seen a QB get more passes batted down than Simms does. Which is pretty strange, considering how many QB guys are shorter than him. I just don't think he's football smart. I don't think he has ever relaxed enough in games to start enjoying himself and learning how to maximize his talents.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

They have to be deciding on a QB for the PS, don't they? If Schaub goes down on week 5, where are they?

The Panthers also released Brett Bassenez when they got McCown from the Dolphins. Maybe he'd be interested.

Also, the Titans released one of my favorites in Ingle Martin.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Also, the Titans released one of my favorites in Ingle Martin.

That is where I heard that name.

[Bigtinylittle]

I remember a couple of weeks ago reading somewhere that Colvin's weight this year was down to around 245. When I saw that, it made me wonder how he could play DE even on passing downs. If McClover really weighs 262 like the stats say, and if he has a great burst off the edge, I could definately see him being the best pass russer we've had opposite Mario since Mario has been with us. I'm very optimistic about McClover, though I can see my optimism only lasting another week or two.

[NBT]

I was really excited when we signed Colvin, then TC began and my enthusiasm waned with every game he didn't play in. Makes me mad the way some of these old vets just try to hang around for the danged money. They care nothing about the team, or the fans, that took them in.

[popanot]

I hope McGlover pans out because Weaver is a waste. But if he couldn't play opposite of Peppers, I think he's an extreme longshot to play opposite Williams.

[dadmg]

Originally Posted by popanot

I hope McGlover pans out because Weaver is a waste. But if he couldn't play opposite of Peppers, I think he's an extreme longshot to play opposite Williams.

I doubt the coaching staff expects him to be a starter. He's still young and could develop, but I think this was a move to get a situational rush specialist, not an every-down lineman.

[dadmg]

Originally Posted by Keith

One spot to go on the practice squad... nice to see Darius make it through.

LB Kevin Coley
WR Darnell Jenkins
DT Gabe Long
DE Jesse Nading
CB Derrick Roberson
WR Mark Simmons
RB Darius Walker

Plus from ESPN.com


http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcsouth/...ice-squad.html

I also breathed a heavy sigh of relief that Walker made it through, although any time another team's starting back gets injured this year, I will hold my breath if he hasn't been called up yet. I'm guessing Washburn's the final spot if he clears waivers. If he doesn't, I would guess it'll be one of the QBs.

[Keith]

The final spot on the practice squad has not gone to Washburn, but instead to another tackle named Alex Stenavich, most recently of the Cowboys.

The 'wagon cut him to allow Larry Allen to sign and retire as a Cowboy.

Official site has a mini-bio up on Stenavich already.
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/pl...?player_id=367

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Keith

The final spot on the practice squad has not gone to Washburn, but instead to another tackle named Alex Stenavich, most recently of the Cowboys.

The 'wagon cut him to allow Larry Allen to sign and retire as a Cowboy.

Official site has a mini-bio up on Stenavich already.
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/pl...?player_id=367

OK this makes no sense. But then again who was Maddox when the signed him to play for us.

QBs are the hardest guys to train and they have the longest learning curve, so why waste time to just cut them?

Schaub has not shown he is Peyton Manning or Brett Favre, so 3 QBs is the smart move. Having 18 OTs does you no good if the QB is already dead.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by popanot

I hope McGlover pans out because Weaver is a waste. But if he couldn't play opposite of Peppers, I think he's an extreme longshot to play opposite Williams.

why is that?

didn't peppers fall off the face of the earth last year? i'm not saying he's done by any means but last year he was bad.