2012 mocks

[barrett]

Originally Posted by NBT

Prior to the Combine I would have agreed with you about Wright, but the less than inspiring 4.61/40, has changed my mind. And I don't think we will be drafting OL in the first round.

In my estimation, we need to cut JJ and Walters, and draft a couple of WRs to add to our explosivenes. It will also take some of the double teams off AJ.

If a 40 time is slow it is a red flag to me and it makes me look at the film. Kendall Wright is the fastest guy on the film against NFL talent every week. I have no speed concerns about him.

[idymoe]

I had a few minutes and saw this recent version of draftsite.com

26 Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234
58 Brandon Washington OG Miami 6' 4" 320
89 Marcus Forston DT Miami 6' 3" 305
121 Cam Johnson DE Virginia 6' 4" 265
153 Janzen Jackson S McNeese State 6' 0" 182
184 Carmen Messina ILB New Mexico 6' 2" 222
216 Marcel Jones OT Nebraska 6' 6" 320



Can't say I'm crazy about any of those picks.

I took a couple of players at the end of the draft before they were actually gone in the following round (or undrafted) by draftsite.

Whitney Mercilus
Josh Chapman
Phillip Blake
Joe Adams
Amini Silatolu
Akiem Hicks
Devon Wylie

I would really like to get Mike Martin in the 3rd, but if Blake were there, I think I would have to take him.

Draftsite had Wylie undrafted, but I thought he looked very quick at the combine, in addition to plus straight-line speed. It looked like he had good hands, too. I can't say I've researched much for this draft class. Mostly going by what I have read and my impressions at the Combine & Senior Bowl.

[painekiller]

My Cherry Pick is like this:
26 Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234 or Stephen Hill* WR Georgia Tech 6' 5" 206
58 Harrison Smith S Notre Dame 6' 2" 212
89 Philip Blake OC Baylor 6' 3" 315
121 Kheeston Randall DE Texas 6' 5" 295
153 Donald Stephenson OT Oklahoma 6' 6" 309
184 Malik Jackson OLB Tennessee 6' 5" 265
216 John Brantley QB Florida 6' 3" 218

I still like Hill, but if Jeffery has a solid pro day later this month, I could be happy with him. Smith looks the part at safety. I agree with idymoe here and I also believe we lose all of our FAs, Blake is a stud at OC. I like Randall for our DE rotation. Stephenson has the quickness we look for. And Brantley is a sleeper QB that can be groomed.

[Blitzwood]

my draft predictions:

26. Coby Fleener TE Stanford 6' 6" 248
I have him as the top player on the board when we pick with Hill and Floyd gone. He's a nightmare to matchup against and upgrades a very important part of our offense. OD isn't the player he once was, but lined up with AJ and the explosive Fleener would make his job a whole lot easier. Also free's Dressen to walk in FA. Not to mention it takes Luck's favorite target off the board. First Team All PAC-10 TE.


58. Kendall Reyes DT/NT Conn 6'4" 300
A disruptive clog in the middle that is a load to handle. Very tough against the run. Had a great career at UConn finishing with All Big East First Team. Cody's apparent heir to take over the NT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS0rD...layer_embedded


89. Marvin Jones WR Cal 6' 2" 201
Very smooth route runner with excellent hands and polish. Can line up anywhere on the field and make plays for you, 4.4 speed. Was the top WR on the north squad at the senior bowl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boy0tkwcv-A


121. Malik Jackson DE3-4 Tenn 6'5" 284
All SEC-First Team by AP, great kid with a high motor, shown by his 56 tackles as a DL last year. A.Smith's replacement in waiting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5-Z...layer_embedded


153. Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M 5'10" 206
Our 3rd RB and kick returner. Derrick Ward looked pretty old last year, can help in a number of different ways and could come in handy considering how often our RB's have had to miss time. Knows how to pick up the blitz which is a must for Kube's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxEWO...ayer_embedded#!


184. Miles Burris 3-4OLB San Siego State 6'2" 246
Total Beast mode type of player that looks like a steal in the 6th. All Mountain West First team last year. He'd be our rotation 3rd OLB keeping the pass rush fresh. This kid could turn out so good it's Scary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtlON...ayer_embedded#!


216. Tyler Horn C Miami 6'4" 308
Some depth at center that can play guard if needed.

[NBT]

Coby Fleener would likely be a good replacement for Dreeson, who is likely gone to FA. If they can get a likely WR in the second round to replace Jacobe, that would be slick.

[NBT]

Originally Posted by barrett

If a 40 time is slow it is a red flag to me and it makes me look at the film. Kendall Wright is the fastest guy on the film against NFL talent every week. I have no speed concerns about him.

Maybe, but it's hard to judge "NFL caliber talent" in college before they actually DO IT in the NFL. If he turns out to be a Jerry Rice, you will be absolutely correct, But how many Jerry Rice's have there been? Just one to my knowledge.

[painekiller]

26

Houston Texans: Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC
The Texans desperately want to draft a receiver at No. 26, but the four first-round prospects are all off the board. Thus, Houston will have to look elsewhere.

Something else the Texans are interested in doing at this juncture is to find another pass-rusher to replace Mario Williams. Connor Barwin and Brooks Reed are great, but Houston wants a third guy to get after the quarterback so it can have a strong and deep rotation.

Pick change; previously Stephen Hill, WR

58

Houston Texans: Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
The Texans, a team that tends to focus in on one or two positions in each round of the NFL Draft, will take the top receiver available with at least one of their picks in the first two rounds. That's pretty much been apparent for months now, but the Houston Chronicle confirmed it recently.

89

Houston Texans: Joe Adams, WR/KR, Arkansas
The Texans could easily go back-to-back receivers to kick off the 2012 NFL Draft. They're going to make upgrading the position a priority this offseason.

Pick change; previously Billy Winn, DE/DT

121

Houston Texans: Philip Blake, C, Baylor
We've reported that the front office believes some team will outbid for Chris Myers in free agency, so Houston will probably have a big need at the center position.

153

Houston Texans: Kheeston Randall, DE/DT, Texas
The Texans will be a little thin up front if five-tech Tim Bulman leaves via free agency.

Pick change; previously James-Michael Johnson, ILB

I do like the way this mocked ended, not sure how it begins...

And I laugh that they are using McClain as a the source in what the Texans will do, McClain has gotten it wrong every year that Rick Smith has been in charge.

[painekiller]

26 Stephen Hill Georgia Tech WRF Height: 6'5" Weight: 200
58 Shea McClellin Boise State OLB34
89 Brandon Mosley Auburn LOT
121 Matt Conrath Virginia DE34
153 Nicolas Jean-Baptiste Baylor DT34
184 Quinton Saulsberry Mississippi State OC
216 George Bryan North Carolina State TE

I like the way this starts ....

[idymoe]

I like the way both of those start, PK. Most mocks have Perry gone by our pick, as well as Mercilus, but who knows. Having watched Shea his collegiate career, I certainly like him. All he did was consistently make big plays. To be honest, I was surprised by his numbers at the combine. I just always thought it was his great football instincts that made him so good for BSU.

Hill could turn out great, with outstanding measurables, but had minimal production in college. Like I mentioned earlier, I like Mike Martin a lot. If you agree, how high would you be willing to draft him. He has a motor, and he is a big man whose built like a little man, and that's a good thing.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by idymoe

Like I mentioned earlier, I like Mike Martin a lot. If you agree, how high would you be willing to draft him. He has a motor, and he is a big man whose built like a little man, and that's a good thing.

I love Martin, but I see him going in the late 2nd early 3rd.

The Huddle Report has him as the 84th best player, CBS Sports has him 78th, Draft Tek has him at 82, and Gil Brandt of NFL,com has him at 76th.

So that has him going before our third round pick, but well after our 2nd rounder.

I love his motor, and he appears to be a great gap shooter.

[painekiller]

26 Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234
58 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
89 Josh Chapman DT Alabama 6' 1" 310
121 Bobby Wagner ILB Utah State 6' 1" 230
153 Shaun Prater CB Iowa 5' 11" 172
184 Winston Guy S Kentucky 6' 1" 208
216 Marcel Jones OT Nebraska 6' 6" 320

[idymoe]

26 Whitney Mercilus
58 Kevin Zeitler
89 Marvin Jones
121 Michael Egnew or Ladarius Green
153 Joe Adams or Amini Silatolu
184 Josh Kaddu or Akeim Hicks
216 Devon Wiley


Definately some risky picks in the lower rounds. I have seen Wiley move up in some mocks. If I knew Wiley would be there in the 7th, I would take a chance on Silatolu.