Why we'll keep Mario...

[Nconroe]

only thing is, Arian was under contract as a RFA through next year and was our 43rd highest salary before today. so what else not correct in that source. I wish I could see who those 51 or 53 current players under contract are and how that adds up to 118k or so?

It does look difficult to keep Mario unless there is one big home town discount the first two years, but why do that if you are Mario? I woiuld like to see Mario stay. Should be very interesting between now and Mar. 13th.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

only thing is, Arian was under contract as a RFA through next year and was our 43rd highest salary before today. so what else not correct in that source. I wish I could see who those 51 or 53 current players under contract are and how that adds up to 118k or so?

It does look difficult to keep Mario unless there is one big home town discount the first two years, but why do that if you are Mario? I woiuld like to see Mario stay. Should be very interesting between now and Mar. 13th.

Not 100% sure on this, but because he was technically a FA (RFA in this case), he actually wasn't under contract for the '12 season. Tender never materialized, so it is a mute point. If he would have been tendered, then that would be his hit.

[Nconroe]

Ok, could be, but I still have questions.

If you also remove Mario, smith, rackers, Dreesen, Brisel salaries seems like you ought to currently be about 25 mil under the cap?

Lots of those lower salaries ought to be gone to fron current count like two extra QZb or practice squad guys?

[popanot]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

If you also remove Mario, smith, rackers, Dreesen, Brisel salaries seems like you ought to currently be about 25 mil under the cap?

Sure those contracts go away, but perhaps you're not factoring in the escalation other contracts. I'm sure other player contracts - like Cushing, Ryans, Barwin, Schaub, AJ, etc., etc., on down the line - are going up, so that's eating into the current cap figure.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by popanot

Sure those contracts go away, but perhaps you're not factoring in the escalation other contracts. I'm sure other player contracts - like Cushing, Ryans, Barwin, Schaub, AJ, etc., etc., on down the line - are going up, so that's eating into the current cap figure.

The more I think about it, I don't understand why we're in such cap hell. We don't have a really expensive QB. Most of our better players are still on their rookie contracts and, if anything, are substantially underpaid (Brown, Cushing, Barwin, Watt, Reed, and until yesterday Foster).

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by Joshua

The more I think about it, I don't understand why we're in such cap hell. We don't have a really expensive QB. Most of our better players are still on their rookie contracts and, if anything, are substantially underpaid (Brown, Cushing, Barwin, Watt, Reed, and until yesterday Foster).

But those are counterbalanced by the contract for AJ and Ryans plus the free agent signings of Joseph, Manning, Antonio Smith, Wade Smith and Shawn Cody. I don't know all the numbers on the contracts but I know we signed an FA for several years in a row, most of them probably back-loaded.

[Nconroe]

well, this cap availability is sure confusing, but a few references to give some hope we can get some things done maybe

this one has salaries and shows us at 107mil incl signing Arian estimate, presumably top 38 players
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/cap-hit/

this one says we have about 25mil available.
http://torotimes.com/2012/03/01/offseason3/

this one explains how we might have like 20 mil available, along with some of the cba rules
http://www.battleredblog.com/2012/3/...o-your-houston

some actual player contract info can be found here, may list more than 38 players,
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/hou/

[WMH]

Originally Posted by Joshua

The more I think about it, I don't understand why we're in such cap hell. We don't have a really expensive QB. Most of our better players are still on their rookie contracts and, if anything, are substantially underpaid (Brown, Cushing, Barwin, Watt, Reed, and until yesterday Foster).

From what I heard on the radio, alot of the restructures done last year in order to sign Joeseph and Manning were pushed into this year.

The team has never been way below the cap, and has usually spent the majority of it. When you rob Peter to pay Paul, it eventually catches up with you. PIT is a perfect case in point, look at all the slashing they had to do. While we will likely do quite a bit again this year, eventually it will catch up with us, unless the cap truly does grow by leaps and bounds, we "might" skate on by.....

[Nconroe]

did you follow some of those links to Texans player salaries and contacts, so, easy to see how things don't add up, but could be there are hidden bonuses to account for this year.

anyways, we should know a lot more about next Tuesday or shortly thereafter at latest on our highly regarded FA's.