Saints

Keith · #1 03-03-2012, 04:37 PM

I'm all for docking a team a 1st round pick as a penalty... that sends a message to the top of the organization... but I don't think that would sit well with the players' union.

barrett · #2 03-03-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith

I'm all for docking a team a 1st round pick as a penalty... that sends a message to the top of the organization... but I don't think that would sit well with the players' union.

I'm not really sure how the Union sees it. On the one hand they lose the first rounder and the 1st round contact. But player injuries have to be a serious priority for the Union. What kind of money do guys like Warner and Favre get paid if they aren't getting cheap shotted by Roman Harper and the like.

If I'm the union, I want to see the organization and the coaches hit hard (to protect players going forward) and the players slapped on the wrist.

painekiller · #3 03-03-2012, 11:37 PM

Forget the union, there is talk that this will be looked at as a capital offense. It is outside the rules of the game and as such falls under a criminal act. Williams and players could be looking at criminal charges.

And I am fine with Williams being suspended for life.

edo783 · #4 03-04-2012, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith

I'm all for docking a team a 1st round pick as a penalty... that sends a message to the top of the organization... but I don't think that would sit well with the players' union.

True they may or may not care, but to come down in anyway seen as supporting it would be a MAJOR PR blunder, so I doubt they do.

NBT · #5 03-12-2012, 08:12 PM

Well, Greg Williams trained under Fisher, and he is going back to be with Daddy. Expect St. Louis to be the next bully.

barrett · #6 03-21-2012, 01:12 PM

Wow....

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Saints coach Sean Payton has been suspended for one year, former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams was suspended indefinitely, general manager Mickey Loomis was suspended for eight regular-season games, the team was fined $500,000 and lost two second-round draft picks (one in 2012 and '13) as a result of a bounty program conducted by the team during the 2009-11 seasons.

There was a lot of talk that the Saints have played fast and loose the past 5 years under Payton and disregarded numerous NFL rules. Then they were explicitly told by the NFL before last season to stop the bounty program and they completely blew the league off. Then the NFL ends up dealing with brain/concussion questions all year. Add it all up and the NFL just murdered the Saints, the same team that was sold to America as heroes for the previous 5 years.

WMH · #7 03-21-2012, 01:14 PM

Hammered!!!!!

HPF Bob · #8 03-21-2012, 01:42 PM

I think it was the Katrina comeback that inspired New Orleans' "Good Guy" reputation, the feel-good story of the vagabond team of a devastated city rising from the rubble to NFL titledom.

The next question is "what do the Saints do with their coaching staff and front office"?

barrett · #9 03-21-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I think it was the Katrina comeback that inspired New Orleans' "Good Guy" reputation, the feel-good story of the vagabond team of a devastated city rising from the rubble to NFL titledom.

The next question is "what do the Saints do with their coaching staff and front office"?

It was definitely the Katrina comeback, but the NFL and all of the networks jumped on board. A city who previously didn't show up for games (and wore paper bags over there head when they did), was presented as a city deeply in love with their team. They were darlings of primetime games and rooted for by everyone.

The 4 page release today also mentions that Payton hated Greg Williams from before he hired him but did it anyways to turn the defense around. Payton then hired a coach whose primary job was to keep an eye on Williams. Then Payton knew about all of the bounties, had emails about it, was told to shut it down, lied about it all, and then got dumped.