Super Bowl

[WMH]

Brady sure looked rattled under the pass rush. Very jumpy, but still made a few plays here and there. I would definitely agree that not having a 100% Gronk was a huge factor. Pats D was respectable I thought.

Other than the Manningham catch/Eli throw down the sideline, I thought the game really lacked the "WOW" plays. Nothing special.

David Carr has a ring now. God Bless America.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by WMH

David Carr has a ring now. God Bless America.

As many as Peyton Manning. I've been trying hard not to think about this.

I see a number of areas where the Texans and the Giants are remarkably similar. They have better depth at receiver and a better secondary but both teams with with their pass rush and a controlled offense. I've never thought of Eli as elite but I'm being forced to revise that. One thing for sure is he reads blitzes well and does not make too many stupid decisions.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

As many as Peyton Manning. I've been trying hard not to think about this.

I see a number of areas where the Texans and the Giants are remarkably similar. They have better depth at receiver and a better secondary but both teams with with their pass rush and a controlled offense. I've never thought of Eli as elite but I'm being forced to revise that. One thing for sure is he reads blitzes well and does not make too many stupid decisions.

I think we have a clearly better secondary. Aside from CB#2 none of those guys would start for us. And when it is Allen on the field, even that position is not a big difference.

I think QB and WR are where the Giants are better. I also think their pass rush is a little more consistent. We have times where we cannot scheme pressure and the fact that we don't have elite individual rushers hurts us (1st 25 minutes against Baltimore).

But our run game, TEs, LBs (middle guys, since I am comparing our OLB with the DE), OL, are better.

Plus maybe the biggest difference, they didn't drop any punts.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

Plus maybe the biggest difference, they didn't drop any punts.

Right. I wasn't trying to initiate a position by position comparison necessarily, just observing that the two teams are similar in that they rely heavily on a sometimes dominant pass rush and have solid, careful offensives rather than explosive ones.

But the exciting thing for all of us I think is the discovery that the Texans are (finally) absolutely competitive with any of the six or eight best teams in the league.