RGIII a future Texan? - Page 2

Nconroe · #21 10-23-2011, 10:02 PM

well, you might be right on WR or S, but for me if best player available early is OL, a guard or tackle, I'd be happy to strngthen our OL for when we get against the really tough teams as Baltimore who seem to just run right over us and get way to much pressure on the QB.

NBT · #22 10-26-2011, 11:10 AM

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You and I aren't enemies, not as far as I'm concerned. We're all friends here despite the various and inevitable disagreements.

If the team loses two more games before the bye - a definite possibility - I'll start looking seriously into replacement coaches, not because anyone cares what I think but simply to daydream a bit. In something of an about-face I think my current inclination would be to go young and relatively unknown. But smart. I wonder what it would be like to have an intelligent head coach.

I would be happy to upgrade Schaub and Jacoby but I firmly believe the team (when healthy) can win with both. As much as I loved Vonta I am perfectly happy with Casey at TE for reasons that have been discussed here previously. No, he is not the bulldozer blocker that one might wish for but he causes so many problems for defenses that I think that one tradeoff is more than made up for by his versatility.

Yes, it is warm here and lately anyway unusually sunny. November and December are by far the rainiest months here in my immediate area and the rains usually pick up as November approaches. So far it's been relatively dry with more sunny days than I'd expect. Today was spectacularly sunny. I could see distant clouds on the other side of the continental divide (where the climate patters are totally different) and some thunderheads well out to sea, but here it was beautiful. I can tell that the dry season is approaching because the humidity is often surprisingly low during the day. Any of you who lives in Houston or has spent any time there will know exactly how this feels. When I say surprisingly low I mean like 70% or 75% rather than 90%. But the difference is immediately palpable. You'll get some days like that in October in Houston but more often they pile up in November. It's not cool during the day. It's never cool during the day at sea level here. But you can stand around outside and not sweat through your shirt in five minutes. Hell, it might take ten or fifteen. The nights are beautiful. I imagine now it's low seventies, low humidity. Clear skies, lots of stars. I practically never use air conditioning because my house is reasonably open and well ventilated but I very recently quit being a total idiot and covered (and extended) the perfectly ample back patio, put down some nice tile, built an outdoor kitchen along one side, bought a particularly nice outdoor sofa set and a dining table. So I'm planning to spend the great majority of my time out there going forward.

Unfortunate choice of words on my part, we sometimes agree to dissagree on things. But that is what a message board is for, after all.

Glad to hear you are enjoying the sunshine. It has been awfully dry around Texas this year.

After winning handily in Tennessee this past Sunday, and AJ and Casey will probably be ready, I am a lot more optimistic. However J'ville surprised me by not allowing a first down against Baltimore until the 3rd quarter Monday night.

Warren · #23 10-26-2011, 05:32 PM

To me Griffin looks closer to 6-0/200 than 6-3/210, so it'll be interesting to see what his combine measurements are when he does come out. I don't think his talk about trying to make the 2012 Olympic track team will help his draft status; NFL teams consider QB to be a full time job so he's probably going to have to make a decision. His passing numbers (ratio-wise, not totals) are generally better than Kevin Kolb's UH stats in the same or a very similar Art Briles offense. Kolb did have better yards per completion (13.45 to 12.29) and per attempt (8.28 to 8.25) which suggests that Griffin's ridiculous completion percentage benefits from his going more to the shorter routes.

Maybe my maroon bias is showing, but I think Ryan Tannehill would be a great fit in Kubiak's offense. He'd be tough on the bootlegs the Texans love to run.

barrett · #24 10-27-2011, 08:32 AM

Kubiak spoke very highly of Tannehill the other day on the radio. Not necessarily about him as a player, but as a person. I think his skill set fits our offense well, and I think Kubiak would be intrigued by how raw he is at QB. I honestly think teaching QBs in one of the things Kubs does best. I would not mind a day 3 pick on him. I'm not really sure where he projects right now.

Griffin is not a very fluid player for how fast he is. Looks like more of a straight line speed guy. But he has plenty of athletic tools, solid accuracy and arm, and one of the most beautiful deep balls you will find. I have watched Baylor twice this year and both times he has dropped deep balls into very small windows. Many guys cannot get the ball to turn over in flight, but he drops it right on their head. His size and injury concerns would make me very nervous though. Size and build wise he is like Michael Vick without the escapability. I don't see how he could hold up to the punishment unless he got Peyton Manning good at throwing it away.

painekiller · #25 10-27-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by barrett

Kubiak spoke very highly of Tannehill the other day on the radio. Not necessarily about him as a player, but as a person. I think his skill set fits our offense well, and I think Kubiak would be intrigued by how raw he is at QB. I honestly think teaching QBs in one of the things Kubs does best. I would not mind a day 3 pick on him. I'm not really sure where he projects right now.

Draftsite,com has Griffin going with in the 3rd round at 69, and Tannehill also in the 3rd at 73.

And CBSSports.com has Tannehill as the 20th best player in the draft and Griffin as the 21st. That is best players overall not just QBs. So where they go is still any ones guess.

barrett · #26 10-27-2011, 06:28 PM

Tannehill would not be a bad value with our late 3rd, but a lot depends on what our other needs are. It is hard to justify a backup QB in round 3 when we will likely have half a dozen spots that could be upgraded that will actually see the field in non-injury situations. Oddly, I'd feel better about a round 1 QB who we saw as a clear upgrade in the future than I would about a mid round pick that may never play (dave ragone style).

NBT · #27 11-05-2011, 04:49 PM

I like Texas A&M, but I'm not much of a fan of Mike Sherman. Tannehill looks OK though.

Joe Joe · #28 11-07-2011, 02:24 PM

I'm a Longhorn, but Tannehill looks great throwing out of play action. I could see him as a Texan.

painekiller · #29 11-20-2011, 05:29 PM

OK NBT, your guy, RGIII has my attention. A very nice arm, above average runner, and a winner.

Only down side to him is that on the last couple of mocks I've seen he has been creeping into the 1st round. Is it time for the Texans to take a QB of the future in the late 1st?

Keith · #30 11-20-2011, 10:50 PM

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Is it time for the Texans to take a QB of the future in the late 1st?

Nope. Too many knuckleheads around to use it as an opportunity to create a QB controversy. Schaub will just be 31 years old next summer.

Maybe use a 2nd rounder on a QB if Leinart proves to be an incapable backup, but not a 1st.

point to be made though... Schaub is entering the final year of his contract next season. In spite of the injury, it might be time to extend him this offseason if a full recovery is the prognosis.

NBT · #31 11-21-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

OK NBT, your guy, RGIII has my attention. A very nice arm, above average runner, and a winner.

Only down side to him is that on the last couple of mocks I've seen he has been creeping into the 1st round. Is it time for the Texans to take a QB of the future in the late 1st?

He is not exactly my guy. I was just throwing him out there to see what kind of response it would get. But that was a good rollout and throwback to his right to win the game from the previously undefeated Sooners.

And no, I would not use a first on RGIII. I liked him better as a late second, or early third. Of course he could end being the same kind of player Andy Dalton has proven to be for the Bengals.

HPF Bob · #32 11-21-2011, 07:38 PM

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... to win the game from the previously undefeated Sooners.

I think the Red Raiders would ask you to amend that comment.

NBT · #33 11-22-2011, 03:42 PM

OOPs! Sorry about that Bob.

barrett · #34 12-03-2011, 05:09 PM

I would take him. This is undoubtedly a super bowl team talent wise. I don't think any team in the afc is close to us talent and scheme wise at the 21 positions other than QB. Schaub is definitely good, but I would love if we took advantage of the fact we have no glaring needs to get our next QB before we need him.

HPF Bob · #35 12-03-2011, 09:14 PM

I now believe he's going to be out of our reach by the time the draft gets to us.

painekiller · #36 12-04-2011, 04:21 PM

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I now believe he's going to be out of our reach by the time the draft gets to us.

I agree, he is a top 15 pick for sure

NBT · #37 12-14-2011, 02:25 PM

..........Yeah, maybe even higher than that now that he has the Heisman.

I really have to agree with Barrett about Schaub. He seems to be a little too much injury prone. He did do very well the last 5 games before he got hurt.

An angel was sure sitting on this teams shoulder when they drafted T.J. Terrific.

edo783 · #38 12-14-2011, 10:53 PM

IMO, a couple of things are going to prevent that happening. His draft position is going to be so high in relation to where we will be drafting at that it will cost a fortune to get there. The other is the TJ factor. He plays well and MAYBE wins a playoff game or two (SB .. Oh ya!) and Schaub has another year yet. We seem to not be in a real QB need situation at the moment. That could change if TJ happens to really go stinkers the rest of the season, but I doubt he does. May have a bad game or two, but I doubt a total tank job.

barrett · #39 12-15-2011, 09:22 AM

I loved schaub as our QB when we were a team trying to break through into the playoffs. If we are competing for superbowls I just don't know.

barrett · #40 03-05-2012, 03:20 PM

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No. He has better throwing mechanics than Vince Young but he's essentially Vince Young. His game doesn't translate to the NFL. By the fifth round, I *might* consider him depending on how his combine/pro day appearances go.

Still standing by this one, or would you chance a 4th rounder on him?