Official Texans @ Saints Game Thread, 9/25/2011 - Page 4

Arky · #61 09-25-2011, 03:06 PM

Manning downs the kickoff in the endzone. Texans ball at their 20.

Pass to KW good for 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.

Pass to Dreessen goes inc. 3rd and 5 coming up.

Pass too tall for Dreessen but flags on the play. PI on Dreessen. Makes it 3rd and 15.

Schaub can't find a receiver and gets sacked. Makes it 4th and 21 coming up.

Big Texas · #62 09-25-2011, 03:09 PM

Well there you have it...we all knew the blitz was coming...you would think a screen or quick dump off would have been the call...there was a lapse in judgement on that call.

Arky · #63 09-25-2011, 03:10 PM

On 4th and 21, deep pass to AJ is inc. Saints takeover on downs.

Ingram for 3. Ball at the Texan 7. Texans call a timeout.

Ingram slips for no gain. Texans use there final timeout. 1:44 left in the game.

Ingram gets about 2. Makes it 4th and goal at the Texan 5.

Saints to go for the FG with 57 seconds left.

FG is good.

But flag on the play against the Texans gives the Saints an auto 1st down.

Saints kneeling it out.

Final score:

Saints 40, Texans 33

Nconroe · #64 09-25-2011, 03:13 PM

Four field goals did us in from red zone. We had a great game overall though.

Big Texas · #65 09-25-2011, 03:14 PM

What I hate about the outcome of this game is not necessarily the loss, but rather the dumb ass headlines...

"Saints rally from a slow start"

"Saints put up an excellent second half"

"Brees overcomes slow start"

Nothing to do with the excellent effort of the Texans...

Big Texas · #66 09-25-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nconroe

Four field goals did us in from red zone. We had a great game overall though.

Exactly...We still have that mentality of playing to our competition. We should have been up 28-10 at the half.

HPF Bob · #67 09-25-2011, 03:19 PM

Still the same Texans. And how many points did Wade Phillips' defense give up?

WMH · #68 09-25-2011, 03:22 PM

First half red zone issues came back to bite us a bit.

Not too worried about the yards/points, who really thought we were going to shut them down?

Great game, bummer of an outcome.

Looking forward to the Steelers game, should be another good one.

Fonz the Boss · #69 09-25-2011, 03:34 PM

I'm just glad this is not the same old Texans.... they fought hard and almost came away with a win. Phillips defense came away with 2 crucial INTs. It came down to the red zone FGs.... We wont face a better offense than the Saints this season... I'm a believer now

TheMatrix31 · #70 09-25-2011, 03:57 PM

Sucks to lose, but I'm "fine" with losing to such a great team with an insane passing attack by only 7 points. Without Foster. WITH Kareem JAckson.

And we lose because we couldn't convert RZ opportunities into TDs. Tough, but last year we would have lost 49-13.

Saints are toughest matchup for Houston all year. And it's not a conference game.

Sucks that we got jobbed by the refs too. That ATROCIOUS personal foul call on Manning, the horrible O-PI call on Dreesen, and what was a non-call PI on a pass to Andre in the red zone that would have been a TD.

chuck · #71 09-25-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

Sucks to lose, but I'm "fine" with losing to such a great team with an insane passing attack by only 7 points. Without Foster. WITH Kareem JAckson.

I cannot possibly convey how much this attitude infuriates and disgusts me. I don't care that a random fan such as you makes such a pathetic display; what bothers me is that this attitude is plainly visible within the organization, most evidently from its owner.

A competently run team would have won this game by three touchdowns.

TheMatrix31 · #72 09-25-2011, 04:33 PM

Oh look. Hey Chuck.

WMH · #73 09-25-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

I cannot possibly convey how much this attitude infuriates and disgusts me. I don't care that a random fan such as you makes such a pathetic display; what bothers me is that this attitude is plainly visible within the organization, most evidently from its owner.

A competently run team would have won this game by three touchdowns.

Your right Chuck. The Texans brass has done absolutely nothing to try to right the ship. They could have brought in a top flight DC this season, maybe a top 5 corner and a legit S to help our struggling D. Hell, I wish they would have used some of our top draft picks to help fortify our D. Man, that would have been nice. I'm sure ole Bob is perfectly happy saving all that money by not doing all that, so he can still rake in the profits.

Good call Chuck.

barrett · #74 09-25-2011, 04:47 PM

I agree with Chuck. There was nothing 'good' about this loss. A decent team is supposed to show up and do a few things right. A good team needs to do enough things right to win. We were not a good team today.

We got every break we needed. We opened up an early lead. And then we gave it away late.

We were up 9 and receiving a punt late in the game when we did this;

Blocked in the back to ruin our field position.
Tate drops an easy pass that would have gotten us out of the bad field position.
Schaub throws an interception.

And the rest is history. We may have some fans on here who hate it when we run the ball with a lead because it is not exciting or fantasy-friendly, but before the game I bet Kubiak would have paid any amount for the opportunity to have the ball up 9 late with a chance to put the game away with our running game (which averaged 4.4 yards per carry). But Kubs was feeling the pressure the Saints offense puts on you, so we come out throwing. Totally off script for our team and not how we put teams away.

That whole series makes me seriously doubt we are anything different than the team of the last few years that finds a way to lose. Now that team may be good enough to win 10 game and make the playoffs this year, but that was not a good football team today. It was a decent team and a respectable performance, and that anyone can be satisfied with that is sad.

chuck · #75 09-25-2011, 04:51 PM

I commend barrett's post highly. One other thing I'll add is that as good as Tate is and will be there is no comparison between Tate and Foster catching the ball out of the backfield.

TheMatrix31 · #76 09-25-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

I commend barrett's post highly. One other thing I'll add is that as good as Tate is and will be there is no comparison between Tate and Foster catching the ball out of the backfield.

Hmmmmmmm....uhhh....and you said my point reflected a pathetic attitude. Pretty sure I mentioned not having Foster being a killer dynamic missing to our offense, especially our red zone offense.

Not to mention Slaton backing up Tate today. Both were worthless. As was the OL. How can we do play action, especially in the red zone, when there are no rushers to respect?

barrett · #77 09-25-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

Hmmmmmmm....uhhh....and you said my point reflected a pathetic attitude. Pretty sure I mentioned not having Foster being a killer dynamic missing to our offense, especially our red zone offense.

Not to mention Slaton backing up Tate today. Both were worthless. As was the OL. How can we do play action, especially in the red zone, when there are no rushers to respect?

I don't think the pathetic part was thinking Foster would help. After watching us let the game dribble down our leg in the 4th quarter today, my biggest hope is that if Foster is %100 we put that game away by stuffing it down the saints throat like we should have. Foster is a game changer. And Tate is solid. And like you noticed, the bigger problem may be that Slaton is not. Especially when we try to make Steve Slaton be Ron Dayne and run inside. He cannot do it. When he goes in the game the playbook needs to change unfortunately. But we asked him to be a square peg in a round hole.

The pathetic part had nothing to do with observing we miss Foster. It is about anyone who loses and says "that's ok, those guys are really good."

Arky · #78 09-25-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

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The pathetic part had nothing to do with observing we miss Foster. It is about anyone who loses and says "that's ok, those guys are really good."

But Matrix didn't say that. He said he was "fine" with it (just like that - in quotations). He went on to say possibly last year we get blown out. So IMO, his point was the team is close but they are not there, yet.

Imagine a scale - on end of the scale you have the fans who think the Texans can do no right. On the other end of the scale you have the fans who think the Texans can do no wrong. In reality, it's not that binary - most fans make up the huge middle ground.....

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The way I see it:

1. You can't give up 40 pts and expect to win.

2. The defense in the 4th quarter was gassed, the pass rush was non-existant. Brees had all day.

3. Schaub has had better days in the redzone (understatement alert) and very good between the 20's.

4. It doesn't matter what I or anyone thinks. The Texans have to get back to work, fix their issues and go after Pittsburgh in a week....

barrett · #79 09-25-2011, 05:51 PM

Word it however you want. Being fine with losing when your team gives it away is not 'fine'.

WMH · #80 09-25-2011, 06:49 PM

Man o man....rewatched some of the 2nd half, KJ had a really rough go of it. Lack of pressure was critical there, but geez, the amount of cushion this kid gives is maddening. I'm assuming he is making up for his lack of speed, but geez.

Speaking of pressure, aside for the Ninja, and a Watt moment, we let Brees get entirely too comfy back there. He's not the easiest sack in the world, but didn't see him having to move around much.

Brandon Harris was active today, but I don't recall seeing him on D. Wonder if he gets a look next week?