New RB in town? [Update: Marcel Shipp to Sign]

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Keith

I know I'm getting to be quite the shill for Tony Hunt here, but he broke off a 51-yard TD run earlier tonight.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80a03b00

it'd be nice if the team's answer was already on the roster.

you know, i'd like to see walker when the o'line starts cutting and not playing against denver. he always seemed to get the positive yards so i wanna see him scoot through a couple of the elderly-capable sized holes gibbs' has installed.

[Roy P]

I took another look at the Denver game and paid particular attention to the running game. First, it appears as if the WRs, TEs, and RBs need to do a better job on the back side. As the line was directing traffic in one direction, there would be a defender on the back side who would come free. I realize that is sometimes ok in this system as long as the RB has made his cut already and headed North and South. However, if we had gotten back side contain from Jacoby Jones, Duane Brown, and Joel Dreesen on a couple of runs, we would have gained better yardage. I also noted, that Slaton was the one consistent back who attacked the hole quickly and ran past the backside defender. This is when "vision" and the fast 10-yard splits come into play. Anybody know if DeShawn Wynn is playing in Green Bay?

[nunusguy]

I think its more likely than not that the Texans pull off a trade for a RB before the regular season gets under way. I'm just hoping that we start the season with Ahman Green OR Chris Brown prepared to start against Pittsburgh, but wouldn't be surprised if it was very uncertain for either to play in the opener.
Dunno who we might trade, or if it would involve a Draft pick, but expect a trade to go down for a back before the season opener.

[mussop]

I dont think we can accurately judge the RB's until the line is in sync.

[NBT]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

I think its more likely than not that the Texans pull off a trade for a RB before the regular season gets under way. I'm just hoping that we start the season with Ahman Green OR Chris Brown prepared to start against Pittsburgh, but wouldn't be surprised if it was very uncertain for either to play in the opener.
Dunno who we might trade, or if it would involve a Draft pick, but expect a trade to go down for a back before the season opener.

Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me a bit either.

[painekiller]

How bad is Taylor hurt? And does the team make a trade for a healthy young)?

[edo783]

Originally Posted by painekiller

How bad is Taylor hurt? And does the team make a trade for a healthy young)?

Supposedly it was just a cramp.

[Mike]

The new RB is Marcel Shipp, formerly of the Arizona Cardinals and the University of Massachussetts.

I don't see a big trade for a RB as others are thinking will happen. I do think we will pick up someone cut from another roster. If we could pick up a guy like Kenton Keith that would be great. While we have some strength in numbers that will cause a cut on the DL, someone else will cut a back.

All we need to do is run it enough to be able to play action and bootleg. I still think over the next two weeks Gibbs will work to refine the running game.

[Nconroe]

So, did they put Fred Weary on IR, to make room for Shipp on 80 man roster. To sad to see Weary most likely gone. Wonder if Ahman Green will be the next IR casualty?

[kRocket]

I don't think they would cut anyone for Shipp. He is a walking hospital ward himself. Looks like he has played 2-2 1/2 full years out of seven years of experience. Methinks he is TC fodder only.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Looking at the Dolphins depth chart; Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams, and Patrick Cobbs are the top 3 RBs on their roster. My pipe dream would be to acquire 6'0" 224lbs Jalen Parmele.

According to Mort from ESPN, Ronnie Brown might be available.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolph...-brown-on.html

I'm saying Mortensen sort of reported it because, frankly, he backed into the whole subject. The Monday Night Countdown show was doing one of its cheesey segments, this one called 'Sink or Swim,' in which the pundits were giving their opinion whether certain players would succeed or fail this year.

Mortensen was asked about Ricky Williams and while talking about how he would "swim," he went on to say that the Dolphins are so pleased with Williams he "would not be surprised if Ronnie Brown sinks," to the point where "he is playing with another team this season."
...

Before I go on, let me tell you that Mortensen was at Miami's preseason game against Jacksonville Saturday evening and he did spend time talking to general manager Jeff Ireland. So one presumes this comes from Ireland as the source and not just out of sheer speculation.

But it is possible for a GM to sometimes think out loud without having any real expectation of following through on an idea and also not expecting the idea to actually be unveiled on national TV.

I would think if Mort, an outstanding reporter by any measure one uses, had the story nailed, he would have come stronger than he just did. I would think it would have been his lead comment, not the Williams sink or swim bunk.

I'd be a little surprised if the Dolphins traded Brown and looked at Ricky and Parmele as their backs. Can't imagine this "report" has much substance.

[Bigtinylittle]

Barring injury, I think the Texans have decided they are set with what they have. Even without Shipp they have five guys who are healthy enough to play right now, and all five are probably at least as good as Dayne was last year.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Keith

According to Mort from ESPN, Ronnie Brown might be available.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolph...-brown-on.html



I'd be a little surprised if the Dolphins traded Brown and looked at Ricky and Parmele as their backs. Can't imagine this "report" has much substance.

i think a trade for ricky williams is more likely....ronnie brown is a damn good RB what the hell are those hacks thinking? he ate our lunch last year and i doubt we were the only ones...what would it take to get brown here?

[Mike]

Originally Posted by KJ3

i think a trade for ricky williams is more likely....ronnie brown is a damn good RB what the hell are those hacks thinking? he ate our lunch last year and i doubt we were the only ones...what would it take to get brown here?

Ricky Williams here? Hell no, I don't want him. I would rather Darius Walker, at least you can count on him for having his head screwed on straight.

Ronnie Brown is a pipe dream. He was the #2 overall pick in the draft. The compensation and $ would be more than what we would want to take on, plus he is coming off an injury. I love Ronnie Brown, but would not take a chance on him.

There is going to be someone who can help us that is going to get a visit from "the Turk."

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Mike

Ricky Williams here? Hell no, I don't want him. I would rather Darius Walker, at least you can count on him for having his head screwed on straight.

i really didn't mean to get the ricky-williams-smokes-pot-and-plays-football debate going. just said that moving him would be far more likely than moving brown.

Ronnie Brown is a pipe dream. He was the #2 overall pick in the draft. The compensation and $ would be more than what we would want to take on, plus he is coming off an injury. I love Ronnie Brown, but would not take a chance on him.

i would be willing to take a chance on him but i kind of figured we would be giving up more than we really could to get him. if anything i think you would say Ricky is the pipe dream...er....hahaha

There is going to be someone who can help us that is going to get a visit from "the Turk."

.....the who?

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by Keith

According to Mort from ESPN, Ronnie Brown might be available.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolph...-brown-on.html



I'd be a little surprised if the Dolphins traded Brown and looked at Ricky and Parmele as their backs. Can't imagine this "report" has much substance.

I'd find it less suprising if they think they could get some nice picks for him. They are in rebuilding mode and he is coming off a serious knee injury. If they feel there are questions about his knee, or feel that additional picks are more valuable to their future than Ronnie Brown I wouldn't be suprised to see it happen.

That being said, I don't think I'd give up more than a second for him and I would be really hesitant to do that.

[dadmg]

I'd love Ronnie Brown on my team, especially next year when his knee is fully recovered. He was quickly becoming one of the top 2 or 3 backs in the league before his injury.

That said, because he was taken at #2, Brown's contract is much, much higher than I'd want to pay a running back, even an elite one. Combine that with the high cost to trade for someone of his stature and the likelihood that he won't be back up to elite speed until next year and I couldn't pull the trigger. As much as I would want a talent like him on my team, I don't think I could ever invest that heavily in an RB given the nature of the position.

[Keith]

First off, I'm even more convinced tonight that the Dolphins are not going to trade Ronnie Brown.

But one point... Brown's contract isn't cheap, but the bonus acceleration would hit the Dolphin's cap in the event of a trade. This means, as far as I can tell, that the Texans would only be on the hook for Brown's base salaries (and any future paid not-yet-earned bonuses I think, if there even are any).

So, the problem is Brown is getting a big raise this season, having base salaries of about $3.6 million in 2008 and 2009 and $5 million in 2010. The flip side to that is that there would be little to no dead money risk if Brown doesn't fully recover. It would just be a question of trade compensation, which would probably include a decent draft pick ...assuming Miami would even trade him, which I very much doubt they would.

[NBT]

I think we just wait. the cutdown to 53 will come after next week, and some good players will be cut.