Official 2011 NFL Draft Rounds 4-7 Thread

[Roy P]

CB Rashad Carmichael Va Tech 5'10" 182 4.38

Small/Fast and tough. Not a bad pick

[Roy P]

Explosive, rangy athlete with nice acceleration and top-end speed. Lanky and slender, but isn't afraid to go for the big hit. Fearless tackler willing to engage bigger backs and receivers head-on. Gets his head around in coverage and adjusts his body nicely to the ball in the air. Has a second gear that allows him to correctively close gaps between himself and receivers who have gained separation. Light-footed, smooth backpedal maintaining still head and upper body. Displays good awareness of both the quarterback's eyes and receiver location when playing off in zone coverage. Gets his hands up quickly to make plays on balls that he may get his head around late on. Keeps his eyes in the backfield and shows good zone discipline when defending the run.

[nunusguy]

Looks like the new Wade-D is under no obligation to cover-up the mess of crap in the Texans back-end, i.e., another rousing vote of no-confidance for Kareem & Co. And you know we are almost surely gonna also add a FA CB to the mix.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Looks like the new Wade-D is under no obligation to cover-up the mess of crap in the Texans back-end, i.e., another rousing vote of no-confidance for Kareem & Co. And you know we are almost surely gonna also add a FA CB to the mix.

I think some of these guys are going to see more time on special teams than on the defense, i.e. depth... Can't give up on a #1 (Kareem) so soon....

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Arky

I think some of these guys are going to see more time on special teams than on the defense, i.e. depth... Can't give up on a #1 (Kareem) so soon....

Oh I agree about Kareem and we also need ST players, but I can't help but think that the Wade-corps has by now seen the tape more than once on the Texans DBs and feel like they need a plan B.

[Roy P]

It would make me feel better if we were able to draft a Safety with our next pick. Apparently, I way over-valued Chris Carter and his 11 sacks and 16 TFLs in college last season. Wondering still if we get a NT or not.

[Arky]

4th round in the can:

Player Pos. Team Grade
1 Brandon Hogan DB Panthers 73
2 K.J. Wright OLB Seahawks 66
3 Da'Norris Searcy S Bills 54
4 Clint Boling OG Bengals 83
5 Jordan Cameron TE Browns 65
6 Sam Acho DE Cardinals 75
7 Luke Stocker TE Buccaneers 74
8 Roy Helu RB Redskins 56
9 Christian Ballard DT Vikings 78
10 Kris Durham WR Seahawks 44
11 Quinton Carter S Broncos 75
12 Colin McCarthy ILB Titans 72
13 David Arkin OG Cowboys 63
14 Edmond Gates WR Dolphins 77
15 Gregory Salas WR Rams 76
16 Chimdi Chekwa DB Raiders 65
17 Cecil Shorts WR Jaguars 65
18 Kendall Hunter RB 49ers 76
19 Casey Matthews ILB Eagles 64
20 James Brewer OT Giants 72
21 Jalil Brown DB Chiefs 74
22 Delone Carter RB Colts 64
23 Alex Henery PK Eagles 56
24 Christopher Prosinski S Jaguars 30
25 Chris Hairston OT Bills 67
26 Tandon Doss WR Ravens 80
27 Owen Marecic FB Browns 51
28 Taiwan Jones RB Raiders 75
29 Bilal Powell RB Jets 62
30 Rashad Carmichael DB Texans 61
31 Cortez Allen DB Steelers 51
32 Julius Thomas TE Broncos 52
33 Jamie Harper RB Titans 35
34 Davon House DB Packers 71

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

It would make me feel better if we were able to draft a Safety with our next pick. Apparently, I way over-valued Chris Carter and his 11 sacks and 16 TFLs in college last season. Wondering still if we get a NT or not.

Speaking of over valuing, any thoughts about Houston following all the way to the third round ?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Speaking of over valuing, any thoughts about Houston following all the way to the third round ?

Popping positive at the Combine is a big no-no. "Character issues" have a way of devaluing a prospect. A few years ago I was very high on Carl Nicks and he got into a fight at a party after the Senior Bowl and he fell like a rock. I think the Saints ended up getting him in the 4th round. Nicks has been a very good LG and I'll be interested in seeing how well Houston plays for KC. If he stays out of trouble, I think he can be a force.

[Roy P]

Shiloh Keo played Safety, but I am not one of his biggest fans when Deunta Williams, Mark Legree, and DeAndre McDaniel were available. We shall see how this pick plays out.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Shiloh Keo played Safety, but I am not one of his biggest fans when Deunta Williams, Mark Legree, and DeAndre McDaniel were available. We shall see how this pick plays out.

I like this pick. Keo is another high motor guy. He will play on every special teams, he is a little slow in his 40 time, but he is always around the ball and he makes plays.

[Arky]

Shiloh Keo, Safety from Idaho

Has punt returner experience...

[coloradodude]

Originally Posted by Arky

Shiloh Keo, Safety from Idaho

Only a face a mother could love




Thought I would add this little blurb I found...

"The Texans find more help for a beleaguered secondary at pick 144 with Idaho S Shiloh Keo, who earned praise from Deion Sanders at the scouting combine for his ball skills and hustle."