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Old 04-26-2008, 09:15 PM
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Anybody got an opinion of John Harris on Radio 1560 here in Houston ?
I was listenting to their Draft show today, and he says he saw Brown in college and went to see him practice this year in Houston at the East-West
college post-season game. He said Brown looked like about a 4th round talent at the E-W game workouts. That's not at all encouraging, but maybe this Harris guy dosen't have a clue about Olinemen ? I sure hope he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:48 PM
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In the press conference, Kubiak and Smith said that another team, sounded like the Seahawks, called asking about moving up a couple spots to 26. Obviously, as Smith said, the Texans "respectfully declined".

Shows a couple things, namely that they has Brown 'in the bullseye' (sorry, couldn't resist ), but that they felt the dropoff from Brown to the next LT on their board was pretty big. Still, turning down the opportunity for another pick, speculated by me to maybe have been around a late 4th, also shows that the Texans might have been a little guilty of being too focused on a single player.

So, good for them to pick the guy they wanted (after a couple others had already been selected), but I wonder how much risk there really was to having Brown slip just a couple more picks. That extra pick sounds tempting to me.
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:54 PM
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The positives: We needed a LT to protect Schaub from Freeney, Van DenBosch, and Harvey. We were able to trade down and get more picks.

The negatives: This was a reach. Antoine Cason was selected right after us. Carl Nicks and Jeremy Zuttah are still on the board when the 3rd round starts tomorrow. What good is it to have Gibbs as a coach if we have to reach on a guy in the 1st round that he thinks he can work with? The selling point on Gibbs was that he could make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Branden Frye was my player to benefit the most out of this.
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:59 PM
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...The selling point on Gibbs was that he could make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Branden Frye was my player to benefit the most out of this.
That's one way of looking at it, but the way I see it... Gibbs probably won't be with the Texans for the long term, and we are looking at a 1 or 2 year window where Gibbs can solve the LT issue. If Gibbs feels comfortable with the guy, and thinks he can groom him as our long term LT starter, I am all for it.
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:08 PM
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Branden Frye was my player to benefit the most out of this.
Who was of course was this guys teammate last year when he played LT and Brown played on the other side at RT. And Frye was our 5th rounder in 2006 which leads to the obvious conclusion that the price for VA-Tech LTs
is inflating exponentially.
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:11 PM
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For most of us, this is too much a trust that we know what we are looking at type pick. At least there was an extra couple of picks added before we seemingly reached (according to the draftsperts). The highest I saw Brown rated outside of "the General's" column was the mid 2nd. Does the mean the the Texans are wrong? No, but really outside of the Ryans and Okoye picks, which ones have really had the agreement of the masses?
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:33 PM
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No, but really outside of the Ryans and Okoye picks, which ones have really had the agreement of the masses?
Excellent point, but I would add Eric Winston to this list.

Personally, I am pretty excited about this. Draftniks scout for a general, middle-of-the-road system, and the Texans O-line scheme does not fall into this category. So, because of that, I take a lot of this pre-draft internet scouting with a grain of salt.

Everyone- Use your eyes and watch this guy. This is arguably the fastest and most athletic left tackle available in the draft. The Texans finally selected a LT in the first round, and they traded down to get him to boot. Definition of a win-win.

Will he start from Day One? Probably not, but I'm not sure I want any rookie LT protecting Schaub, at least to start the season. Salaam (and Pitts?) can play caretaker for just a little bit longer, maybe even just a half season, as Brown learns the ropes.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:04 AM
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Draftniks scout for a general, middle-of-the-road system, and the Texans O-line scheme does not fall into this category. So, because of that, I take a lot of this pre-draft internet scouting with a grain of salt.
Exactly, and a lot of the internet sites I've seen have even mentioned that he's perfect for the zone blocking scheme, but still list him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder. As I've said before, Gibbs knows this system better than anyone, and Kubiak and Smith have proven they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:52 AM
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Interesting pick. I hope it doesn't take more than a season to get Brown ready to take the reigns. Because I doubt we can get much more than one more season out of Salaam. And if we can't consistently protect Schaub, who knows if what happened to Carr's potential happens to Matt's.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:53 AM
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Just curious

I know the "draftniks" said Brown was a 2nd 3rd or 4th rounder (and maybe we reached) but I wonder if they knew 7 OTs would go before 26?

positive side from what I have read.. the negatives seem to be coachable (lazy hands, stands too far up etc)

I don't expect him to start so we can groom him,but if he starts that would be a bonus (obviously)
Gibbs coaching him should help

TC with time against Mario should help him too

but I am just blurting out my thoughts with no real evidence

maybe vinny or some of y'all can correct me or give me some thoughts (maybe I am speaking out of my piehole)
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Old 04-27-2008, 04:01 PM
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Personally, I am pretty excited about this. Draftniks scout for a general, middle-of-the-road system, and the Texans O-line scheme does not fall into this category. So, because of that, I take a lot of this pre-draft internet scouting with a grain of salt.

Everyone- Use your eyes and watch this guy. This is arguably the fastest and most athletic left tackle available in the draft. The Texans finally selected a LT in the first round, and they traded down to get him to boot. Definition of a win-win.
Sums up my thoughts pretty well. Didn't have cable and was away from the internet for the weekend, but when I heard the Texans dealt down to 26 and picked Brown I was definitely alright with it. I think he would have been gone by mid 2nd round at the latest and, with the run on OTs, probably wouldn't have lasted that long. Very good fit. Would've been #2 on my board behind Kenny Phillips, but I think there's just as good a chance I'd have taken Brown.
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